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The Newbie flamewar provocation is NOT THE WORK OF GOD. It is ZOT.
Doctrinal Catechism ^ | 19th century | R E V.   S T E P H E N    K E E N A N.

Posted on 04/11/2013 6:40:37 AM PDT by Vermont Crank

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To: daniel1212

Dear Daniel. It is too bad you chose not to engage over the undeniable reality that there has always been only one religion.


261 posted on 04/12/2013 4:59:42 AM PDT by Vermont Crank (Invisible yet are signs of the force of Tradition that'll act upon our inertia into Indifferentism)
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To: muawiyah

Dear muawiyah. I will leave the matter as a measure of our disagreement over your assertion that religion was more politics than faith


262 posted on 04/12/2013 4:59:42 AM PDT by Vermont Crank (Invisible yet are signs of the force of Tradition that'll act upon our inertia into Indifferentism)
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To: BipolarBob
Dear BipolarBob. Yes, the original Catholics were Jews and the great Dom Prosper Gueranger in The Liturgical Year pays witness to that by calling the Descent of the Holy Ghost upon the Apostles (hiding in that room out of fear of the Jews) "The Jewish Pentecost."

That alone reveals that race is immaterial when it comes to religion; the crucial reality is whether or not one accepts Jesus as Messias

263 posted on 04/12/2013 4:59:42 AM PDT by Vermont Crank (Invisible yet are signs of the force of Tradition that'll act upon our inertia into Indifferentism)
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To: daniel1212

Dear Daniel. Yes, and so does the Angelic Doctor, Saint Thomas Aquinas


264 posted on 04/12/2013 4:59:42 AM PDT by Vermont Crank (Invisible yet are signs of the force of Tradition that'll act upon our inertia into Indifferentism)
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To: APatientMan

Dear APatientMan. Springfield. I was a communicant at Saint Mary’s and every Sunday after Mass I went to Cote’s Bakery for Jelly Sticks


265 posted on 04/12/2013 4:59:42 AM PDT by Vermont Crank (Invisible yet are signs of the force of Tradition that'll act upon our inertia into Indifferentism)
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To: MortMan

Dear MortMan. Either Jesus was telling the truth or Jesus was lying when He chose to build His church upon Peter - the weakest link in the chain of Apostles.


266 posted on 04/12/2013 4:59:42 AM PDT by Vermont Crank (Invisible yet are signs of the force of Tradition that'll act upon our inertia into Indifferentism)
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To: Religion Moderator

Dear Religion Moderator Sorry. I thought in drawing distinctions within that parallel example I was defending the defensible Inquisition and I didn’t understand that that is considered “flamebait.”


267 posted on 04/12/2013 4:59:42 AM PDT by Vermont Crank (Invisible yet are signs of the force of Tradition that'll act upon our inertia into Indifferentism)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Dear ArrogantBustard. Thank you


268 posted on 04/12/2013 4:59:47 AM PDT by Vermont Crank (Invisible yet are signs of the force of Tradition that'll act upon our inertia into Indifferentism)
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To: Vermont Crank
Gee whiz, you didn't like the evidence? Strong men living in a rough age, bounded on all sides by violence and degraded condition, most likely valued their political positions more highly than the correctness of this or that order of worship.

There were a few exceptions ~ a couple of the more recent anti-popes in that age ~ BTW, also of Breton origin, though living in Spain!

But, we digress. Just remember, the Second Amendment reflects an event that happened in the mid 1500s in France. At the cessation of hostilities the Catholics (Guise faction) stacked arms. The Protestants (the Huguenot faction) refused to do so!

Although personal firearms were relatively new, the participants in those first wars that saw their widespread use UNDERSTOOD.

The first act of the new government under Henry IV was the promulgation of the Edict of Nantes, the first statement respecting freedom of thought and worship.

Without personal ownership of firearms, not just 'arms', there can be no freedom of worship, nor of thought, nor of speech, nor of assembly, .......... they are all inextricably linked.

It's not that the French Huguenots invented the concepts ~ even their opponents, the French Catholics, immediately recognized THE DISCOVERY OF A NEW WAY OF LIFE.

The Catholics changed their minds on the matter over the years ~ except for some like Biden, Malloy, Pelosi and a whole host of others everyone agrees need to be excommunicated and dragged down from their high estates in the world of politics.

At least I hope you share those beliefs ~ or you are on the wrong board!

269 posted on 04/12/2013 5:09:31 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: BlueDragon
at 166?

Leon Morris has the advantage of 1600 years to make his assertion. He is reasoning from his conclusion

David Dunbar confirms the authority of the Church.

270 posted on 04/12/2013 5:19:12 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: roamer_1
I will subscribe to no creed of men

"Do you believe in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all ages, Light of Light, true God of True God, begotten not made of one essence with the Father, by Whom all things were made.....?"

Do you hold this belief?

271 posted on 04/12/2013 5:25:55 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Vermont Crank; daniel1212
Dear Daniel. It is too bad you chose not to engage over the undeniable reality that there has always been only one religion.

Dear Crank. It is too bad you choose not to believe the one religion is not nor ever could be Catholicism. From the Garden of Eden to Moses to Jesus, the one religion has always faithfully kept Gods Commandments, including the fourth which states the seventh day is to be kept holy. Not Sunday, as the Catholics believe.

272 posted on 04/12/2013 5:46:46 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: Elsie

The counter Reformation was a fulfillment of Ga. 4:29, and pushing papal infallibility thru, which makes an individual the supreme authority - as is wrongly charged of Protestantism - was part of that countering of the needed reformation.


273 posted on 04/12/2013 6:03:23 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: fatboy

***So your line of reasoning only works in and among those like yourself who basically don’t know what they are talking about and or place the actual Word of God at the bottom of their summer reading list.***

I grew up Presbyterian, so I probably know more Scripture than you do. It was reading and studying the Bible which convinced me to convert to the Catholic Church, because it is has the only interpretation that makes any cohesive sense.

By the way, where do you think the Bible came from, anyway?


274 posted on 04/12/2013 6:05:26 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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To: daniel1212

Just so you know, I do not respond to posts whose only content is an attack on the RCC. She has worthy defenders here. I also will not engage in the difference that the Orthodox have with her. This forum is not the place for that. If I seem to be “defending” the RCC, it is because there is much common belief that I can do so, based on a thousand years of common history.


275 posted on 04/12/2013 6:20:07 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Elsie

Have you given up on hammering the Mormons?


276 posted on 04/12/2013 6:21:33 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: nanetteclaret
By the way, where do you think the Bible came from, anyway?

Good luck with that. How does a magician pull a rabbit out of his hat? (Distraction is involved)

277 posted on 04/12/2013 6:30:57 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: nanetteclaret

Ahh, those sneaky Presbyters, always looking for a nice neat pile ~ then they creep in on their host and eat out their innards ~ or something.


278 posted on 04/12/2013 7:01:04 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Dear muawiyah. The recusants in England and the faithful of the Vendee would disagree with your historical recapitulation; as would ye own self.

For a Catholic, there can be no surrender to the declaration of the war against God, His unity and His sanity that is "freedom of worship."

As it was Our Triune God who instructed man how He wished to be worshiped in the one religion (there has always been only one religion) and then when, in the fullness of time, The Second Person of the Blessed Trinity became man and He taught us how to worship God and and so there can be no "freedom" to do other than what God Himself has taught is the only right way to worship Him.

Said otherwise, the "freedom to worship" God as man desires to worship Him and not worship God as Jesus Himself taught man to worship God (Through the Holy Sacrifice of The Mass) in no freedom at all; it is the slavery of Satan

279 posted on 04/12/2013 7:04:23 AM PDT by Vermont Crank (Invisible yet are signs of the force of Tradition that'll act upon our inertia into Indifferentism)
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To: Vermont Crank
Gee whiz, i think my relatives owned those people in the Vondee ~ and almost the entire South Coast we might call it.

But which massacre were you concerned with? There are two that affected the non nobles ~ one in the Religious Wars and one in the French Revolution. You must be specific!

280 posted on 04/12/2013 7:08:27 AM PDT by muawiyah
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