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To: stylin19a

>>If I have accepted Jesus as my personal savior, and I have been born again, would I be able to kill myself ?

>>If I do kill myself, have I really accepted Jesus ?

That is the right answer to this question. Skeptics like to use the suicide paradox as one of their “proofs” that if God is real, then He is not love. They just don’t understand the question.

Now, the hard part is what do you tell the family of a suicide who want to believe that their loved one is in heaven anyway.


18 posted on 04/09/2013 1:43:49 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Bryanw92
Now, the hard part is what do you tell the family of a suicide who want to believe that their loved one is in heaven anyway.

My sincere suggestion is to just keep one's mouth shut. It really is not for us to know or judge.

Is overweight person who has a heart attack from obesity a suicide, and denied heaven? How about the smoker or drinker who dies from the chronic effects -- a suicide, only slowly? What about the chronic worrier, even if he or she is sincerely concerned about his or her grown children, who strokes out from anxiety? What about the person who skipped some work-related duty to leave on time, and is hit by a car and killed on the way home? Did they commit suicide because they consciously shirked their duty, and then were in the wrong place at the wrong time?

And if any of the above are technically suicides, should we comment upon it to the survivors -- "You know, if only they had done what they were supposed to do, they would be able to go to heaven; but as it is...."

I think not.

32 posted on 04/09/2013 2:04:59 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Commies out of D.C.!" --Raoul Deming, 1955-2013)
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To: Bryanw92

Why tell them anything? It’s not like you really KNOW what happens, do you?


36 posted on 04/09/2013 2:07:28 PM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: Bryanw92

I use the analogy of love’s existence as an argument about God’s existence. The common refrain of non-believers is that since we cannot prove God exists, he does not.

I ask if there is anything that exists that one cannot prove (with evidence acceptable the person). I sometimes ask what proof would be sufficient for them of the existence of God.

I then ask, “Does love exist?” Few would say no. “How do you prove love exists?” The kinds of proof they suggest are almost exactly the same kinds of proof of the existence of God...


104 posted on 04/10/2013 7:16:55 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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