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To: DouglasKC
I'm sorry, I assumed you were asking about the organization "United Church of God."

You're basically making two contradictory arguments here: that the United Church of God is the first century Church and that UCG came into existence in 1995.

These are incorrect traditional interpretations of holy scripture. Jesus Christ taught none of these things neither did his disciples.

I see.

And the UCG's interpretations are the correct ones.

And we can rely on this assertion that the UCG is correct and others are incorrect because . . . you say so?

It's certainly not a topic that can be covered in a post or summed up and dismissed with a couple of words.

Yet you attempted just that upthread.

Thanks for posting the link - people should look for themselves to find Armstrong's ahistorical, racialist arguments about the Scythians.

He has no "following" and he's not the head of the church.

He indeed has a following. Specifically, persons like yourself who agree that his position on Armstrong's teachings was more reliable than that of the GCI or of the CGWA.

And while he was not the head of the Church, he was the head of the UCG until a few weeks ago.

Clyde Kilough isn't the President of the new group so I'm not sure where you're getting your information from.

Kilough was absolutely a founder of CGWA. Jim Franks may be the current President, but Kilough is not an after-the-fact, rank-and-file member. He was instrumental in the splitting of the CGWA from the UCG.

While I understand the rhetorical value of saying that you desire "humility" while simultaneously asserting that orthodox Christian theology is "incorrect tradition" the UCG retains certain core distinctives.

Among those distinctives, as illustrated by your link, is the belief that whites of "northwest European" descent are actually the physical descendants of the 10 tribes of the Northern Kingdom of Israel.

You speak of the Church as a "spiritual organism" existing in many forms - this is vague enough to pass muster with most "nondenominational" and Evangelical Christians.

But the UCG also believes that the Church is a physical and political organism as well, based on the genetic ancestry and political history of the British diaspora.

27 posted on 04/08/2013 12:57:54 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake
And while he was not the head of the Church, he was the head of the UCG until a few weeks ago.

I'm afraid you're still misunderstanding. In any sense of the word the President of UCG is not the "head" of the church either in a corporate or spiritual sense. The president is an administrative position that administers the physical operation of the organization. The council of elders, the 12 persons elected by the general conference of elders, are the governing body of the organization with the ultimate responsibility for the overall operation of the church. But even they answer to Jesus Christ.

I sense that you're not really interested in discussion because every time I post something that I feel is a direct and clear answer you come back kind of hostile (in my estimation) and contradictory. So I'm going to end this line of discussion.

I don't mean to not address certain doctrinal points but that really isn't the purpose of the thread. If you look at some of the past stuff that I've posted you can get a pretty good idea of what Christ taught according to scripture.

Take care and God bless...

28 posted on 04/08/2013 1:28:00 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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