Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

To: wardaddy
Is this one of my church is an honour roll student or can beat up your church sort of threads?

Nope. There's one church, those who worship the Lord Jesus Christ. This church is a spiritual organism that stretches across organizations.

Do you chauvinists really think God or the Christ care what church you attend short of apostate?

I'm not sure "care" is the right word. I think they're concerned with our spiritual development. Some organizations can help that spiritual development. Some organizations can hinder it. And some were created specifically to try and stop it. Christ predicted the rise of false religion:

Mat 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
Mat 7:22 Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'
Mat 7:23 And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'

171 posted on 04/10/2013 11:14:17 PM PDT by DouglasKC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 169 | View Replies ]


To: DouglasKC

“Nope. There’s one church, those who worship the Lord Jesus Christ. This church is a spiritual organism that stretches across organizations.”


You’ve already told us that we are not Christians, but that you are, because you’re a member of a particular religion called the “United Church of God.”

Having taken the time to do a bit of research, I discovered the following facts:

Here is a quote by your religion on the nature of God:

God: God consists of two different beings, Father and Son, in a ‘family.’
“...the one God is a family, presently consisting of God the Father and God the Son, Jesus Christ. And God is in the process of adding to the divine family multitudes of others - eventually all human beings who are willing and who faithfully choose to follow God’s way...the Father and Jesus Christ are both God...The real message in these pronouncements is that there is no other God apart from the true God’that is, outside the God family now consisting of two divine Beings, the Father and the Son. In short, the God family alone is God...the true God means the one God family to which others will yet be added.”

http://www.ucg.org/booklet/god-trinity/do-some-verses-deny-divine-family

The scriptures are clear on the unity of God:

Isa_44:8 Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

God is not defined as the “family of God.” There is only one God, and no one is being added into the Godhead.

Apparently, your religion teaches that man can “partake of divinity,” IOW, become God by joining into the ‘God Family.’

Isa_43:10 ... before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

It goes on:

The Holy Spirit is God’s divine power. “...the Holy Spirit is the very nature, presence and expression of God’s power actively working in His servants...the very essence and life force through which the Father begets human beings as His spiritual children...The Holy Spirit is spoken of in many ways that demonstrate that it is not a divine person.”
“The Holy Spirit is received by the laying on of hands, after being water baptized by immersion.

http://www.ucg.org/booklet/god-trinity/holy-spirit-person/
http://www.ucg.org/fundamental-beliefs-info/

You should have been more honest about your full position when you first argued with me, as you never told me or made it clear that you denied that the Holy Spirit was a person. I thought, perhaps, you thought that the Father and the Holy Spirit were in reference to the same being. The fact that the Holy Spirit is a distinct person (and not an inanimate object) in the Godhead cannot be disputed. After all, if the Lord GOD and His Spirit are sending the Son, this is a decision made by two different persons, who are yet the same God, as is the Son.

Apparently, also, your religion claims that the Holy Spirit can only be passed on by directly being touched by someone in your church.

Of course, I already posted the scripture of Cornelius receiving the Holy Spirit merely at the preaching of Peter, even before water baptism. You never replied to it, and this explains why. The Holy Spirit is sovereign in the scriptures, and falls on whom He will. The fact that you are not being honest about this, while yet telling us we are not Christians, and then acting like the body of Christ crosses many different organizations, is good evidence of your overall deception.

It goes on:

“God will offer salvation all who have lived, including those of non-Christian religions, in a time described in Revelation 22: 5, 11-13 . This is a period known as the Great White Throne Judgment when God will offer salvation, through Christ, to those denied such opportunity in their life.”

http://www.ucg.org/blog/salvation-without-jesus

Apparently, like other religious cults as in the Jehovah’s Witnesses or Mormons, you offer salvation for those who have already passed away, even though those who die can only await the judgment:

Heb_9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

You also deny the effectual calling of God for all those predestinated before the foundation of the world:

Rom 8:28-29 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. (29) For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Therefore, you are not a Christian, and you have nothing in common with the body of Christ.


174 posted on 04/11/2013 12:08:08 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 171 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson