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To: Boogieman
Please take comfort in the words of Jesus.

From the Darby bible: John 12:32. and I, if I be lifted up out of the earth, will draw all to me.

And now Paul.

I Tim. 4:9-10

“This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation. For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, Who IS THE SAVIOUR OF ALL MEN, specially of those that believe.

I trust in the living God who is the savior of all men, specially those that believe and also that I recognize this as a faithful saying worthy of never being forgotten.

Now watch the naysayers flame me. They will flame me because they pick and they choose what the want to believe to please their itching ears.

2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

Of course the will scoff in glee and ignore this.....

1Cr 3:11. For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.

1Cr 3:12 If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw,

1Cr 3:13 their work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each person's work.

1Cr 3:14 If what has been built survives, the builder will receive a reward.

1Cr 3:15 If it is burned up, the builder will suffer loss but yet will be saved—even though only as one escaping through the flames.

They will totally ignore the last verse, where Paul clearly states that though this person, loses everything, the will be saved as if by fire.

What fire?

Hbr 12:29 For our God [is] a consuming fire.

And they will scoff louder after reading this.

Mal 3:2 But who can endure the day of his coming? Who can stand when he appears? For he will be like a refiner’s fire or a launderer's soap.

Yes, every impurity will be washed away, and Gods children ALL OF THEM NOT A SELECT FEW. will be as pure as white snow.

Luk 15:2 But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law muttered, “This man welcomes sinners and eats with them.”

Luk 15:3 Then Jesus told them this parable:

Luk 15:4 “Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Doesn't he leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it?

Luk 15:5 And when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders

Luk 15:6 and goes home. Then he calls his friends and neighbors together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost sheep.’

Now just because I dare quote Jesus and Paul, I will be the greatest heretic imagined.

But then, they ignore this next Scripture too.

Darby Translation:
Col 1:25 of which I became minister, according to the dispensation of God which [is] given me towards you to complete the word of God,

Yes, Paul was commissioned to complete the Word of God. Not John.

Here say? Hardly, because we have the Scriptures that agree.

“In the book of Revelation we do not have the final plan of God. Paul, in 1 Cor. 15:22-28 takes us much further into the future than does the book of Revelation. To illustrate this more clearly, study the following: 1 Cor. 15:22-28 as compared with the new heaven and new earth of Revelation 20:21-22:

In 1 Cor. 15:22-28, we have:
No more rule
No more authority
No more power
No more enemies
No more reigning
All subjected
No more death, death destroyed.
All made alive, immortal

In Revelation 20, 21 & 22, we have:
Still rule (20:6; 22:5)
Son still reigns (22:1-5; 11:5)
Authority (21:24,25)
Power (21:24,25; 22:2)
Kings (21:24-26)
Saints reign (22:5)
Second death still exists (21:5)
The nations still mortal (22:2)

Consequently, Col. 1:16-20:
All in heaven and earth created in Him (verse 16)
All for Him (verse 16)
All estranged are reconciled (verse 20)

Romans 5:18-21 (Darby)
18 so then as it was by one offence towards all men to condemnation, so by one righteousness towards all men for justification of life. 19 For as indeed by the disobedience of the one man the many have been constituted sinners, so also by the obedience of the one the many will be constituted righteous. 20 But law came in, in order that the offence might abound; but where sin abounded grace has overabounded, 21 in order that, even as sin has reigned in the power of death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Notice it is the same many. If the word (the) was not used it would simply state ‘many’ but it does not, it states ‘the many’

But all of this is meaningless as all who believe in hell believe that Satan has more power than Christ. How so, simple. When asked the question: who will win. Adam or Christ, they will say Adam every time. Because they believe an inferior man, born into sin controlled by the Father of this world: Satan could not be possibly be saved by a loving God.

So who wins? In their mind Satan. Not in my mind though. God has had a plan since before the beginning of time.

74 posted on 04/06/2013 3:14:44 PM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (Don't forget love)
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To: BornToBeAmerican
" 2 . Tim 4:3 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. "

Of course ?
We have teachers who look for disiples who have " itching ears " to build a cult of followers around themselves.

As in ? great teachers, sort of like how our todays cults are, to control people, to put fear into their hearts for no other gain, but, unto themsevles, and not for God or Christ.

Who are these so called teachers ?

Teachers of the law.

If you have ever study cults, the one thing they use the most is fear and intimidation.

I know, I was in a church like that.

If you didn't do this, you go to hell, or at least that is what was implied.

If you didn't tithe 10 % ? your cursed with a curse and GOD would cut you off and you will go to hell.

The problem with them is ?

Anyone who is saved or born again ?

They are NOT cursed, nor can they ever be cursed again.

God rebuked Balaam for trying to curse Israel and God told him ? why do you try to curse those in whom I have not cursed ?

The bible tells us that God loves a " cheerful giver " not someone who is complelled , forced to give their money.

If you didn't go to church every sunday ?

Your cut off from God and your going to hell...

No, they didn't say it in those exact words, but, the spirit that was implied had you feel that way.

The bible tells us that for God has not given us the spirit of fear, or intimidation, but of Power, and of Love and of a sound mind.

Why do these cults or cult leaders do this ?

To control the people.

The use the law to break over people's heads to keep them in control.
Do you think God's grace does that ?

No !

" 1 Cr 3:11. For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. "


Correct... no other foundation....
Nothing but the blood of Jesus Christ.

Church going every sunday can't save anyone, nor can it ever save anyone.

Nor can the Law, nor can the Law ever save anyone, or justify anyone before a holy God.

It ( the law of God ) was only put in place to be a school master ( read the book of Gal ) to bring man kind to his understanding of his hopeless state without christ.

There is only one name, and person in whom anyone can be saved and that is Jesus Christ alone and his blood atonement.
For by Grace are ye saved through faith, and not of yourselves... it's a free gift from God and God alone.
101 posted on 04/06/2013 8:11:50 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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