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To: American Constitutionalist

Yes, I know.

And when I first read it, I’d been a Christian for about 14 years.

And it scared me. I re-calibrated after reading it.


68 posted on 04/06/2013 1:48:57 PM PDT by Chasaway (Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?)
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To: Chasaway
I saw a video of some preacher back in the early 80s in YOUTUBE preaching this.

Need to pick it apart and understand whom the listening audiance was intended for that message.

It was for those who continue to reject Christ.

As the book of Hebrews talks about " If we continue to sin " as in ? unbelief.

Now ?

The LAW preachers would have you think that Hebrews 10:26 :

26. For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

27. But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.


To think it means those who got saved, and then finding themselves in sin ? are going to face hell and dammnation.

Once again, reveal what the bible says, by the bible, or interpret the bible with the bible.

1 John 1:9 : If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

1 John 2:1 : My little children, these things write I unto you, that you sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:


See there what John wrote ?

" And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the father "

So what does Hebrews 10:26 mean then ?

Those LAW preachers need to put the whole book of hebrews in it's proper context.

Read the whole book and to WHOM it was written to.

It was written to Jewish Hebrews who may have heard, and known the truth of the Gosple of Jesus Christ but have not acutally gotten saved, i.e. Born Again.

The writer was writing directly to those Jewish Herbrews.

The book of Hebrews was not written directly to us, but ? it was written FOR us.

The writer was making the argument how the law, the prophets, the old covenant, and the old sacrifice system was inferier to Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ is much much more superior to the old way.

Also ?

The LAW preachers like to scare and cattle prod people into fear, hell and dammnation when the book of Hebrews says:

" and let us not forsake the assembly of the saints."

Once again, those who like to control people.


The LAW preachers are nothing but CULT leaders bringing people unto themselves, not Christ.

They love the power they have over the people.

The LAW preachers, have you noticed that most CULTS are LAW preachers and not grace preachers ?

They want to control the people to have control over their minds, lives, and money.....

A BIG OPPSS !!

God wants you to fellowship and go to church by your own will and love for him.

Those who like to control people have a excuse to extort more money from people love to use that scripture.

OPPSS !!!!

What that verse really means ?

The writer calls on those who may or may not have been born again not to go back into the Judiasm system.

Many of those saints may have gotten saved, or not saved and when the persecution got difficult ?

Or when they where excomunicated from the Synagogues ?

Or it hurt their business ?

Wealth ?
Fame ?

Or standing on the comunity by associating with christians ?

They adandon their christian faith.


Is has nothing to do with going to church every Sunday.

Where ?

The greedy preachers can Fleece the flock by pounding it into their heads that they are going to hell if they don't obey the Malachi 3:10 tithe.

OPPSS !! Looks like they have been exposed...

Double OPPSS !!


OPPSS !!!


Yeah, I can see them getting angry with me.... so be it.


The writer of the book of Hebrews is talking about those who have abandon their christian faith for what ever reason it may have been in those days.


Now ? In Hebrews chapter 10 verse 29 ?
Despite the spirit of Grace, i.e. offen.

How does someone offend the spirit of Grace ?

It has NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING to do with sinning.

For by GRACE are we saved through faith.

How about when someone says " they have fallen from Grace " ?
How can someone fall from Grace when they sin ?

When ? it was Grace that saved them ?

Yeah, I know, more of the LAW preacher's mind control to control the people and all their Doctrite degrees, and Theological Degrees and stuff to impress the people, but ?
They don't impress God at all... them wolves... theives.


So ? how does someone fall from Grace ?
You know how someone falls from grace ?


When they reject God's grace offer.
God's grace himself, Jesus Christ, and offen the spirit of Grace the Holy Spirit.

Those who have gone back into the law, and think by keeping the law will win them God's approval, acceptance, and salvation have fallen from Grace.


Read this from the last sentance down at the bottom, from the right to the left and on up....


First read ?
Offending the spirit of Grace, and you will get what the writer of Hebrew means.

Hebrews 10: 26 - 29 :


26. For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

27. But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

28. He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

29. Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?


They have done despite, ignor, despised the spirit of Grace, and God's gift of salvation in Jesus Christ.

If we continue to sin, and early on in this same book of Hebrew the writer tells us what this perticular sin is and what it's all about.... it's the sin of Unbelief in Christ.
Hebrews chapter 3:8-19


8. Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:

9. When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.

10. Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.

11. So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)

12. Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.

13. But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.

14. For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;

15. While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.

16 For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.

17. But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness?

18. And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?

19. So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.


The writer talks about how Israel harden their hearts against God of unbelief when God told them to enter into the promised land.

Our Salvation in Christ by Grace through faith is our " Promised Land " and " Enteral Rest ".

The writer of the book of Hebrews says in Hebrews 4 verse 1:
4. Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.


Now we understand what the writer means in Hebrews chapter 10 verse 26 :

26. For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

27. But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

If we continue to sin, the sin of unbelief, by rejecting Christ and then die ? there remains no more means, or sacrifice for those who reject Christ and God's Grace... what can they expect from God ?



JUDGEMENT !!

80 posted on 04/06/2013 6:22:36 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Chasaway
Hebrews 10: 26 - 29 :

26. For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

27. But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

28. He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

29. Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?


To read it from backwards on up.

They have offended the spirit of grace.

Who have done despite unto the spirit of grace by counting it ( those who were sanctifed by it ) the blood of the covenant.
Who have trodden under foot the son of God.

So shall be be worthy !

Suppose ye !

Who have done this !

Worthy of sore punishment !

He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries !

( those who reject Jesus Christ, God's grace, and offend the spirit of grace ).

For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

( The knowledge of the truth ? what is it ? that God sent his son to save us by his grace, but some rejected it, some scorned it, therefore they have offened the spirit of grace and are worthy of sore punishment and hell dammnation. )

This part of the book of Hebrews is a very fearful and stern warning to those who already reject Christ, and God's gracious gift to us, and those who go back into Judiasm, the law system to trust in them selves to save themselves for salvation .
103 posted on 04/06/2013 8:45:57 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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