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To: Cvengr

[[The next step is to check and test the spirits.]]

Thanks for the reply- I do not beleive what I experienced was physical or even of the spirit nature as it was absoltuely contrary to God’s word- I am convinced it was a high fever induiced hallucination and perhaps a Near death induced misfirign of the mind-

[[On the contrary, it had intelligence, and it is ignorantly arrogant to think somehow our insight is manifest only when we relax,]]

As I stated in my last post- them idn is a very complex thing- I never mentioend that I only experienced it because I was ‘relaxed’- infact I was anythign but relaxed- everythgin was goign haywire- I was in convulsions, throwing up, flopping around, my mind was goign berzerk- I think that because everythigtn was so contrary to God’s word that it couldn’t have been anythign BUT lucid ‘dreaming’ or lucid hallucinations whatever hte case may be-

I reamin steadfast in My faith and Sal;vation despite the horrible experience I had (although I was for a tiem quite shook- but I was also only 17 years old and very very sick and weak both phtyisically and mentally too so my mental strength was also affected and I was less strogn hten than I am now but I still held to my Slavatio nthrough Christ even i nthe darkest hours)

[[it is ignorantly arrogant to think somehow our insight is manifest only when we relax, because of only our thinking, and not the influence of others.]]

Not exactly sure hwta you’re tryign to get at here? What was the premise of your post? That you think it coudl have been an actual NDE?


172 posted on 04/07/2013 8:32:26 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop

NDE are generally experiences wherein the human spirit is separate from the body. The body might even be physically dead, but the human spirit lives separate from the body and elements of the experience is later recalled in memory.

Even dreams may be spiritually induced.


178 posted on 04/08/2013 12:56:29 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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