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To: Persevero
Well, not let us see which community of faith is better equipped to judge on the canonicity of a particular book of scripture.

The Catholic Church: formed by Christ expressly as His Church built on the person of Peter who shall convert his brethren (Matthew 16:16-19, Luke 22:31-32).

The Protestant communities of faith: not heard of till 15th c.

The Catholic Church: developed the canons of both Old Testament and the New Testament by early 5th c. when evidence of authorship and provenance was still relatively fresh; it included the Deuterocanonicals, despite objections (Canon of the Old Testament; Canon of the New Testament --historical reviews and must read for anyone interested in the formation of the canons)

The Protestant communuties of faith: developed false theology incompatible with most of the Holy Scripture, so they tossed whatever they could.

The Catholic Church: fought against major christological heresies of 1-4 cc. and formed a comprehensive body of theological work, and especially the Nicean Creed.

The Protestant communities: revitalized major heresies of old and added its own; pride themselves on ignorance of the patristic legacy and their lack of historical continuity.

You can believe what you want, but do not expect anything but scorn and ridicule from people of authentic Christian faith.

408 posted on 04/06/2013 6:30:15 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex
not now let us see
409 posted on 04/06/2013 6:31:53 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

“The Protestant communities of faith: not heard of till 15th c.. .”

I must take issue with this. I do believe we were protestant, i.e. not taken up with a Roman pope, Magisterium, and the unbiblical doctrines of RCs. . . we were heard of, if I may say so, in the book of Acts! This is a difference in perspective we have. You see Protestants as suddenly appearing with Luther. I see RCs slowly appearing and taking over from the times of the supreme Roman elder “pope.” When it got to a boiling point, the Reformation occurred, and the biblical Christians pulled away, or were pushed/excommunicated/killed away, from Rome.

As for expecting scorn and ridicule, did you really mean to say that? Why should scorn or ridicule be expected from any Christian person? I have neither for you - you should have none for me.


472 posted on 04/07/2013 2:46:35 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: annalex

By way of illustration, as to your comment:

“The Catholic Church: fought against major christological heresies of 1-4 cc. and formed a comprehensive body of theological work, and especially the Nicean Creed. “

You see, I agree with you in part, but I don’t think it was the Catholic Church fighting against heresy, but rather the early church, which was not caught up in the often debated RC heresies, or what I see as heresies. I am proud, as a Christian, of the Nicean Creed and etc. I view them as part of my heritage as a Protestant.

If it’s biblical, I like it.

Thus with such doctrines as Mary stuff, a Pope, penance, veneration of various saints, praying to the dead. . . you lose me there.

Of course none of that is in the Nicean Creed, or any of the good early church creeds.


473 posted on 04/07/2013 2:56:36 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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