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To: YHAOS

Are the problems confronting American seminaries merely theological? Or is the problem more systemic?


Good Question... should make a good conversation....

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Since most of the christian world are bible worshipers.. much like many Jews are Talmud worshipers.. there’s even some that are church worshipers.. Idolatry has assumed many strange morphing’s of variation..

Jesus never really said read the bible.. or other Jewish lore.. since most couldn’t read anyway and if they could there were few written objects to read.. almost no bibles.. and the Talmud such as it was, was for Rabbi’s to fight over..

Jesus as I read him from available lore (if true) said; go to the Holy Spirit to receive all that you need to know.. So once so-called christians in later centurys started worshiping the bible this Idolatry start a long decapitation of Christianity..

To the extent most christians do NOT have an invisible friend(Holy Spirit)... to get their answers from.. and worship at the shrine of the bible.. and more or less pray to the ceiling fan.. That can get old.. After all what do they even need the Holy Spirit for.. heck they have the bible..

What do you think.?.. is the Holy Spirit a doofus?...
I propose “he” is not.. and gets much entertainment from christians attempts to marginalize “HIM” and resort to bible or church worship....
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23 posted on 04/01/2013 2:00:14 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe
go to the Holy Spirit to receive all that you need to know..

I always looked to the Holy Spirit to guide me in understanding what Holy Scripture had to say, but . . . pay me no attention. I am far too simple-minded to be relied upon for counsel.

26 posted on 04/01/2013 3:29:18 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: hosepipe

The Holy Spirit inspired the Holy Bible - it is the Word of God. If you could succeed in declaring the Bible null and void you would also succeed in eliminating Christianity imho.

Your argument is completely senseless, every belief system has founding documents. The more profound ones provide more and more depth and nuance of meanings throughout one’s life.

Jesus first act at age 12 was to show the leading ‘expert’ theologians more profound understanding of the Old Testament than any of them had ever dared dream.


48 posted on 04/11/2013 6:52:42 AM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: hosepipe
Since most of the christian world are bible worshipers.. much like many Jews are Talmud worshipers.. there’s even some that are church worshipers.. Idolatry has assumed many strange morphing’s of variation..

The Bible is authoritative and God's word to us but nobody that I've ever run into *worships* it.

Jesus constantly quoted Scripture and when He was tempted in the wilderness by Satan MISusing Scripture, He counter with Scripture properly used.

Casting doubt and dispersion on the word is Satan's best tactic. It's the one he use on Eve to get her to sin. *Did God actually say.....?*

Aside from the fact that she shouldn't have bothered debating with the serpent the one verse of Scripture they had, she should have referred to it to make sure they had it right.

the problem isn't Scripture, the problem is not knowing Scripture.

To the extent most christians do NOT have an invisible friend(Holy Spirit)... to get their answers from.. and worship at the shrine of the bible.. and more or less pray to the ceiling fan.. That can get old.. After all what do they even need the Holy Spirit for.. heck they have the bible..

All Christians have the Holy Spirit. If someone doesn't have the Holy Spirit, they aren't a Christian.

But again, the problem is not knowing Scripture. You can't rely on feelings or human logic when it comes to spiritual matters.

Hello, do you not realize that without the Holy Spirit to guide, no one can understand the Bible?

What do you think.?.. is the Holy Spirit a doofus?... I propose “he” is not.. and gets much entertainment from christians attempts to marginalize “HIM” and resort to bible or church worship....

I think it grieves Him when He is marginalized.

83 posted on 04/22/2013 12:00:53 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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