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I am not implying that there are not errant or superstitious Catholics only that Catholic teaching differentiates between prayer and worship. In English to pray means to ask and that is how it is used within Catholic teaching. We ask saints, whom we believe are still alive, to intercede and pray for us.

That would be acceptable if it was fact...Problem is, we have posted for evidence countless pages from Catholic books and internet sites which clearly show that Mary is to be prayed to, not prayed thru, for salvation, grace and many other things which only God can provide...You can slice it and dice it any way you want, but THAT is worship...

As Pope John Paul II explained Marian devotions, Catholics ask the Blessed Mother to help guide and form the Christ in us as God asked Her to do with His Son. I don't expect you to accept this because I do not expect you to understand it.

I (we) understand it perfectly...But I for one just flat out don't believe it...Mary has absolutely ZERO to do with the Holy Spirit within the bodies of born again, bible believing Christians...Or Catholics, for that matter...

"I (we) understand it perfectly..."

I am not here to argue the merits of what you believe. I only post to correctly present Catholic teaching. As purchased by Adam and Eve at great price to humanity, you remain free to believe anything you want.

Peace be with you