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To: narses; fellowpatriot; MarineMom613; Ron C.; wolfman23601; ColdOne; navymom1; Pat4ever
We venerate the Saints and Mary is venerated as a Saint and given special veneration as the Mother of God. Not worship but respect.

Our Lord plainly tells us we are not to make images of anything on earth. Nor are we to bow down to those images. Now the real question is why, when given such clear and explicit instructions in scripture, would we go about doing exactly what the Lord God tells us not to do? But this is our sinful nature to willfully go against God's instructions.

Your final point is just odd.

Not really. Mary did not prayed or gave thanks to Moses. She prayed and gave thanks to God. One has to wonder why some feel the need to pray to anyone other than the Trinity.

115 posted on 03/31/2013 8:45:59 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD
Our Lord plainly tells us we are not to make images of anything on earth.

Exo 25:18 And you shall make two cherubim of gold; of hammered work shall you make them, on the two ends of the mercy seat. Exo 25:19 Make one cherub on the one end, and one cherub on the other end. Of one piece with the mercy seat shall you make the cherubim on its two ends. Exo 25:20 The cherubim shall spread out their wings above, overshadowing the mercy seat with their wings, their faces one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubim be.

Exo 25:31 "You shall make a lampstand of pure gold. The lampstand shall be made of hammered work: its base, its stem, its cups, its calyxes, and its flowers shall be of one piece with it. Exo 25:32 And there shall be six branches going out of its sides, three branches of the lampstand out of one side of it and three branches of the lampstand out of the other side of it; Exo 25:33 three cups made like almond blossoms, each with calyx and flower, on one branch, and three cups made like almond blossoms, each with calyx and flower, on the other branch--so for the six branches going out of the lampstand. Exo 25:34 And on the lampstand itself there shall be four cups made like almond blossoms, with their calyxes and flowers, Exo 25:35 and a calyx of one piece with it under each pair of the six branches going out from the lampstand. Exo 25:36 Their calyxes and their branches shall be of one piece with it, the whole of it a single piece of hammered work of pure gold.

Exo 26:31 "And you shall make a veil of blue and purple and scarlet yarns and fine twined linen. It shall be made with cherubim skillfully worked into it.

You folks did keep the book of Exodus in your Bible right?

116 posted on 03/31/2013 8:56:55 AM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: HarleyD; fellowpatriot; MarineMom613; Ron C.; wolfman23601; ColdOne; navymom1; Pat4ever; ...

HarleyD wrote:

“Our Lord plainly tells us we are not to make images of anything on earth.”

Any FReepers out there on this beautiful Easter Sunday care to name the heresy involved in this odd claim? For bonus points, what schsimatic sects hold to this heresy even today?

Hey Harley - are you one of them that will not celebrate Easter or Christmas or worship on a Sunday?


118 posted on 03/31/2013 10:09:18 AM PDT by narses
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To: HarleyD; narses; verga
Our Lord plainly tells us we are not to make images of anything on earth.

No paintings or photographs in your house? Kids shouldn't be allowed to draw or colour what they see or is in their hearts? No sculptures? How about National Geographic? Are they breaking God's law?

When the people complained and murmured about the bread which came down from heaven, God sent them a severe punishment: "...In punishment the LORD sent among the people saraph serpents, which bit the people so that many of them died. Then the people came to Moses and said, "We have sinned in complaining against the LORD and you. Pray the LORD to take the serpents from us." So Moses prayed for the people, and the LORD said to Moses, "Make a saraph and mount it on a pole, and if anyone who has been bitten looks at it, he will recover." Moses accordingly made a bronze serpent and mounted it on a pole, and whenever anyone who had been bitten by a serpent looked at the bronze serpent, he recovered." (Numbers 21:6-9, NAB)

"And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the desert, so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him, may not perish; but may have life everlasting." (St. John 3:14-15, DRB)

Are only serpents exempt from this command?

176 posted on 04/01/2013 1:04:05 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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