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To: stuartcr

Objective truth is not dependent on proof or argument. It is what is... truth is reality. Your hunger and your belief is subjective truth. Mathematics, however, is a good example of objective truth as far as I understand. It appears you do not perceive the difference between objective and subjective. Thus, God’s existence for you depends on man’s prooving Him to exist. For me, God’s existence does not depend on prooving Him to be. God has given us good and sufficient reason to believe in Him but His existence does not depend on our belief. Our different starting points makes our discussion unproductive. It has been an education of sorts.


129 posted on 03/27/2013 12:41:45 PM PDT by Nanny7
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To: Nanny7

I have no need to prove there is one God, it’s self-evident to me. If you have a problem with other people’s self-evidence, ok.


133 posted on 03/27/2013 12:56:07 PM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: Nanny7

Excellant point.....

“...God’s existence does not depend on prooving Him to be. God has given us good and sufficient reason to believe in Him... but His existence does not depend on our belief.”

Exactly.


139 posted on 03/27/2013 1:25:14 PM PDT by caww
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