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To: caww

Geez man, what is going on in your head? What kind of moral decisions do you ponder over, that makes you need to know if they are right or wrong? Don’t you have a conscience?

I have never, in my 62+yrs, ever done something that I had to actually ask myself if it was morally right or wrong. I really don’t think I’m alone in this either.

I told you a number of times that I believe our moral code is instilled in us by God when He creates us. To me, that means that what I do, is ok in my eyes and in God’s eyes.

I’m accountable for all my actions here on earth, but I’ve never done anything that led me to believe that I would get in trouble with God.

Why do you think I’m so thankful to God all the time?


112 posted on 03/27/2013 8:44:44 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: stuartcr
I can agree that God has given us the git of our conscious as Prov. 20:27 reveals. Thus we have the power of moral judgment....as the dictionary defines....“the inner sense of what is right or wrong in ones conduct or motives, impelling one toward right action.”

However,... ...”Conscience points towards a standard,conscious is not the standard”......... we might be able to determine that wrong has been done,.... but then how do we define that wrong? .........If there isn't a standard or reference we have nothing to truly measure by except ‘opinion’.

additionally... conscience is not ‘the source’ of revelation ‘about’ right and wrong... It does not teach us moral or ethical ideals, rather to hold us accountable to the highest standards of right and wrong we know............. the conscience can only react to what it knows and what it has been taught.

If one has been taught that the the Bible is God’s word to mankind and that it is the supreme standard for right and wrong, the conscience will react when there is any deviation from those teachings...... If ‘the conscience’ is taught that Islam, Mormonism, Hinduism, is ‘the truth’... it will react when those standards are about to be violated..... If the conscience is taught that cursing, drinking and wicked living are right, the conscience will have no problem with those things.

J. Oswald Sanders said this concerning the conscience:

“Every conscience needs instruction... Its delicate mechanism has been thrown off balance by the fall..... Just as a bullet will reach the bull’eye only if the two sights are in correct alignment, so correct moral judgments are delivered ‘only’ when the conscience is correctly aligned with the Scriptures.”

...The conscience does not determine whether something is moral, what it does do is “apply” moral truth.... if it is to be reliable it must make judgments consistent with objective moral truth.... If it does not, then that conscience is in error and is not to be trusted. (notes I took from a study on the conscious)

116 posted on 03/27/2013 11:22:10 AM PDT by caww
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To: stuartcr

Proverbs 26:12 Do you see a man who is wise in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.

Proverbs 30:12 There are those who are fclean in their own eyes but are not washed of their filth.

No one is clean without Jesus cleaning him. Nobody is perfect or sinless and all it takes to condemn man is one sin

ALL have sinned. You are not right before God without the righteousness of Christ imputed to you. It doesn’t matter if you feel like you’re OK.


151 posted on 03/27/2013 2:44:49 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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