Posted on 03/26/2013 6:56:09 AM PDT by NYer
I have done just what you asked.
I don’t understand why anyone would even bother to find God, since He is inside each of us.
So there can be an infinite series of movers and causes?
Do you mean an infinite series of movers and moved, or an infinite series of causes and effects?
In either case, there cannot be, because the infinite loop would need to be complete and consistent - a self-contained system.
This, however, is not logically possible. It would involve finite entities generating an uncountably infinite series of effects - but a finite set of entities (or described logically: rules, or sentences) cannot generate such a cloud of effects using an internally consistent algorithm.
Both, I combined Aquinas’ first 2 into one for the sake of brevity.
Not logical to you, but perhaps it is to God? Maybe the algorithm is God Himself? Would He have to be consistent?
Is your position that: objecctive truth does not exist? ... or that one cannot know the truth of GOD’s existance? I suspect the former but don’t want to jump to any conclusions.
Re 51 - Just be glad that they got over burning us at the stake and tearing us to pieces on the rack (among many other creative forms of torture and extermination) as they did for about a thousand years between when Emperor Constantine co-opted Christianity and around the late 17th century when European civilization had had about enough of it.
From my admittedly casual view of history, I see little practical distinction between Roman “Christianity” and Islam in terms of how they propagated the religion and treated dissidents (”Heritics” or “Infidels” respectively) for centuries. If anything, Muslims were sometimes more tolerant and humanitarian.
Thanks be to God we’ve come a long way since then; RCs may still damn us to hell, but at least they don’t violently expedite the trip like they used to - or Muslims are still wont to do whenever they get the chance.
Happy Peshach (Passover)by the way.
That was yesterday if you go by the Rabinical calender and tomorrow by the old Lunar Hebrew calender. Didn’t you celebrate it?
“Jesus” and His followers did.
Why not? it’s one of the Holy Festivals that our God actually commanded us (not just the Jews) to observe... unlike the Babylonian / Roman Pagan festivals in honor of false gods like Estrus (Easter) and “Christmas” (Saturnalia, worshiping the Sun god, whose “resurrection” was celebrated on the Winter Solstice).
Both the HRCC and “Protestantism” have retained these pagan corruptions to the original Faith ever since Constantine took it over and started slaughtering the Jews and anyone else who dared to resist or question his perversions.
Our common Ad*nai (Lord) Yeshua HaMasshiach (His original Hebrew Name and rank, BTW) was not, IIRC, a Roman; he was a Jew, as were all of his Apostles.
He was surely fluent in Latin, but probably spoke in Hebrew and Aramaic most of the time he was incarnate here on Earth.
So why isn’t the High and Holy Mass spoken in Hebrew?
Where do we get off rejecting and despising the ancient Hebraic roots of our Faith and the culture of our mutually confessed Savior, pray tell?
(Standing by for some interesting kickback on this one!)
You can believe that, if you want. You are wrong.
I do not believe there is a moral absolute that applies to everyone throughout history.
See, I knew you belonged to that group that believes they are right.
Thou shalt not murder...
Sorry wrong guy, but I’m sure you do believe you’re right. Good for you
Would that include all taking of life, or just certain instances?
Murder is the taking of innocent life. So, for example, killing someone in self-defense is not the same.
The end result of murder is taking a human life, right?
Collateral damage is taking innocent lives, isn’t it? Or is it ok if a govt says so? Wars are ok? Accidental killings, ok? taking out a suspected badguy, ok?
Sounds like the moral absolute of taking a human life is relative to the reasoning behind it.
I do believe that I am right. If I didn’t, I would change my opinion.
We’ll all find out some day. Good luck to you.
A “public anathema” would be an excommunication. In so far as Muslims weren’t part of the Christian or Catholic communion, there would be no excommunication or anathema of Muslims, though a Christian who espoused such views could be excommunicated or anathematized.
You stated....”God.. is inside each of us.”
Prove it.
Yeshua (”Jesus”, if you will) was pretty much “Anathematized” by the Jewish Sanhedrin or dominant religious institution of his time, wasn’t he?
Is it a sin to be anathema to an apostate religious institution (”Church”)?
...Or is it a sacred obligation?
Are you then of the mind that each individual determines his own standard of morality?.... and if so, by what standard then are those morals measured?
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