Sigh: Biden Receives Communion Again [at Dolan's Cathedral]

Creative Minority Report ^ | 3/25/2013 | Patrick Archbold

[Brian Kopp DPM]

Sigh: Biden Receives Communion Again

Sigh. I ask, what is the point of having a Canon 915? 

Cardinal Dolan was back at St. Patrick's Cathedral and so was Joe Biden. Look at the commentary below from the Daily News. Isn't this the very definition of scandal?

Among the faithful packing the pews was Vice President Biden along with his wife, Jill.

Biden received communion, despite his support for abortion rights.

Unlike his predecessor, Dolan does give communion to Catholics who stray from church dogma on abortion policy, saying he prefers to persuade them in discussion rather deny them the Eucharist.

Dolan and Biden had coffee after the service, though neither addressed the press.

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Posted by Patrick Archbold at 3/25/2013

[txrefugee]

The Church of What’s Happenin’ Now. When will the gay weddings begin?

[Brian Kopp DPM]

New outreach to Catholics as Biden meets with Cardinal Timothy Dolan in New York

Vice president attends mass and receives communion at St. Patrick’s Cathedral

By

JAME O'SHEA,

IrishCentral Staff Writer

Published Monday, March 25, 2013

Vice President Joe Biden attended mass and received communion on Sunday at St. Patrick’s Cathedral in New York where the mass was celebrated by Cardinal Timothy Dolan.

At a time when the administration is being sued by Dolan and the Catholic Bishop’s Conference over the Obama health care provision on birth control, the meeting was seen as an attempt to create a new dialogue.

An Irish American Catholic, Biden receiving communion was also seen as significant. Dolan’s predecessor Cardinal Edward Egan refused to give communion to those who differed with the church on the abortion issue.

Biden says he is pro-life but will not seek to impose his views on others.

Biden met with Cardinal Dolan after the mass for coffee but what they discussed was not made public.

Biden’s latest move comes at a time when the Obama administration appears to be using the VP in a new outreach to American Catholics.

Biden represented the administration at the swearing in of Pope Francis in Rome where he again received communion.  He was also inaugurated into the Irish America Hall of Fame last week, also in New York, attended by many leading Irish American Catholics.

[Brian Kopp DPM]

Biden time at St. Pat’s

• By ANTONIO ANTENUCCI and PEDRO OLIVEIRA
• Last Updated: 2:24 AM, March 25, 2013
• Posted: 1:27 AM, March 25, 2013

Timothy Cardinal Dolan preached at home yesterday for the first time since jetting to the Vatican to help pick a new pope — and received a surprise visit from Joe Biden during the Palm Sunday services.

“We welcome the vice president of the United States, Mr. Biden, we welcome him here,” Dolan told parishioners, celebrating the start of Holy Week at St. Patrick’s Cathedral. “You have a place in our thoughts and prayers.”

[SoothingDave]

So, do you sin happily or have you managed to become immaculate?

[old and tired]

Why does anything Cardinal Dolan do surprise us? He's the one who gave the a-ok for those few churchgoing pro-union labor Catholics who were on the fence about voting for the baby killing dems when he gave the prayer at the Dem convention.

And then he followed up with words to the effect of "just wait a few weeks until after the election. Everything will be back to normal." He's either a non-believer or a fool.

[old and tired]

The question is: why are you still struggling with sin? The question is: why are you still struggling with sin?

What???

[steve86]

This scandal is a good example of why I take refuge with my Rosary and occasional (when available) Latin Mass. Dolan and Biden could run naked across the Verrazano bridge together arm in arm and it wouldn’t have any relevance for me. Married to Catholic faith and beliefs, estranged from much of the rest.

[napscoordinator]

There needs to be public recantation of sinful act,

What? Catholics NEVER get up in front of people and confess their sins.

[JustSayNoToNannies]

I take refuge with my Rosary and occasional (when available) Latin Mass. [...] Married to Catholic faith and beliefs

Not to be argumentative, but the Sunday obligation is an integral part of Catholic faith and beliefs.

[steve86]

Not when it is a danger to your faith as the VII Mass is to me. Been there, done that, never again.

[NKP_Vet]

Dolan is a hypocrite and causes great scandal in the Church by giving pro-abortion politicians Holy Communion. The same thing goes for Cardinal Donald Wuerl, the archbishop of Washington DC. If these men are going to mock their Catholic faith by ignoring Canon Law they need to be kicked out of the church. As a faithful Catholic, I am sick and tired of it. They are the ones that give the Catholic Church a bad name.

[JustSayNoToNannies]

I empathize - I've offered up to the Lord the spiritual pain I've felt at some Masses. Hard as it is to find trial where I should find relief, I can't disobey my Sunday obligation.

[steve86]

Although uncomfortable, it sounds as though your anguish is internal and does not rise to the level of being apparent to everyone around you. I even confronted a priest in the vestibule on the way out. Really think it’s better I just stay away. Not my fault I was born just prior to the time Satan began to influence the liturgy. Mary warned us — “about 1960” — I consider the prior obligation to be null and void in the circumstances.

[Brian Kopp DPM]

[smvoice]

Do either one of you understand the gospel of the grace of God? Do either of you know what it is?

"For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me FREE from the law of sin and death." Rom. 8:2.

Do either of you understand what this means?

[SoothingDave]

I asked you a question first.

[ubipetrusest]

Maybe he’s both, but he’s shrewd. It’s becoming clearer how His Eminence can champion the cause of Dorothy Day. She also paid lip service to the Commandments and teachings of the Church while she decried “sexual immorality” and sacrilegious communions at Catholic Worker farms but did nothing. She proclaimed publicly that she would obey if ordered by legitimate Church authorities to change her paper’s name even after she had refused to do so. Similarly, Dolan’s behavior violates Canon 915, so his praise of Day’s “prophetic disobedience” is no surprise. As Day was, His Eminence is a wearer of the “seamless garment” when it comes to life issues. Carol Byrne’s “The Catholic Worker Movement (1933-1980): A Critical Analysis” documents Day’s many deficiencies, which Cardinal Dolan shares and celebrates.

We need an Archbishop of New York who is not a “cheesehead”; who follows Canon 915; who recognizes the priority of abortion over immigration and prison issues; and who faces the fact that things are going bad in his Archdiocese, which has the dishonor of being the abortion capital of the US.

[don-o]

How do we know if Vice President Biden went to Confession before Communion?

We don't know that. But, we do know that if he did and confessed his sin of promoting abortion and received absolution without a public repentance and penance for his public disobedience, well, we know he found a very shoddy, incompetent confessor.

[don-o]

What? Catholics NEVER get up in front of people and confess their sins.

You're missing the point. For a start, do some study on causing scandal to the faithful.

[metmom]

Does that not then invalidate the sacrament since it was given with wrong intent??