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To: teppe

“Ok try this ....

Jesus Christ said that he was the “Son of God”.

I’m sorry if I take the Bible literally and you take it figuritively.”


Well, I’m sorry that your exegesis of scripture consists of a single phrase. I actually do believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God. He’s also the second member of the trinity, as the scripture calls Him “Immanuel,” God with us:

Isa_7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

We are told quite explicitly that Christ is the Word, and the Word is both with God and is God. And that He created the heavens and the Earth, which we are told is what God did in the Old Testament:

Joh 1:1-3 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (2) The same was in the beginning with God. (3) All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Gen_1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

We also know that there is only one God, so Jesus cannot be a second God.

Isa_44:8 ... Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

So, you’re move, Kimosabi.


36 posted on 03/24/2013 10:24:31 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Did you get my response regarding John 17:22?

Christ wanted his Apostles to be one .... even as he and God were one?

So according your definition there must be one apostle in twelve and twelve apostles in one .... but never at any time only one, but never at any time only twelve .... neither dividing the substance ..... nor combining the substance ..... repeat ad nausem


39 posted on 03/24/2013 10:35:26 PM PDT by teppe (... for my God ... for my Family ... for my Country ....)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

You should read what Tertullian said about John 1:1-3 in “Against Praexeus”

In fact read the whole thing. Obviously Tertullian wouldn’t have survivied the execution purge the Theodosius established in the Eddict of Thessalonioca.


40 posted on 03/24/2013 10:39:05 PM PDT by teppe (... for my God ... for my Family ... for my Country ....)
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