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To: Rashputin

Lots of people stop listening when basic doctrinal issues are discussed, such as discernment of worldly and carnal sin.


69 posted on 03/22/2013 7:53:45 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr
LOL, yes, and try to change the subject with silly snark and buzzwords.

Why someone who places their own worldly, carnal, intellect above The Word of God and claims the right to throw portions of Holy Scripture in the trashcan is, in effect, claiming to be superior to His Word and therefore Christ Himself who is The Word.

That's the issue we were discussing prior to an attempted diversion via an implied slandering of The One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church Jesus Christ Himself founded.

So, to get back on topic, lets talk about discerning the fact that those who believe in throwing Scripture in the trash either worship their Self, or they worship the individual they grant the such superiority over Scripture that said individual has every right to throw portions of Holy Scripture, His Word, in the trashcan.

Agreeing that someone had the right to throw Scripture in the trashcan is accepting that person's claim that they are more righteous, more intelligent, and closer to Christ, than were the Apostles, or any and all Christians who lived from the time of Christ until this individual came along.

In fact, when someone claims they have every right to throw out portions of the Bible they are claiming to be more like Christ than Christ Himself, who they claim never noticed there were books included in the Septuagint that should not have been included. Were such a person to further assert that Scripture is all anyone needs, they would clearly be claiming that while Christ had no idea what was or was not the inspired Word of God, they do.

There's really no way around it. Once someone accepts that an individual had and/or has the right to throw portions of Scripture in the trashcan, they either accept the dictates of that individual the same way people used to put a pinch of incense in the flame that burned before Cesar as a god, or, they believe that just like the person who threw out Scripture, they have every right to throw portions of His Word in the trashcan as well.

I suspect it's almost always the latter of the two because the worldly and carnal sins that eventually overtake everyone who goes along with throwing out Scripture are in keeping with people worshiping their own, "Most High and Holy Self", and following Eve rather than Christ.

That's what it really means when you agree with throwing portions of Holy Scripture in the trashcan.

People who go that route may very well be, in fact almost certainly are, under the powerful delusion that leads men to their own destruction. That being the case, they are blind and cannot see what they're really accepting. That doesn't matter, though, because their "discernment" is just like their righteousness, filthy rags. Our Salvation is in surrendering to Jesus Christ and the only way to surrender is to surrender and let Christ open your eyes instead of "discerning" with your blind intellect and spirit.

Christ is the same yesterday, to day, and forever. When Christ was incarnate on the earth, he accepted the authority of the Priesthood, he paid the Temple tax for Himself and Peter, He obeyed the rules of the Temple, He told the Apostles to obey those who were on the seat of Moses. He established His Church with a hierarchy among the Apostles, who then established a hierarchy as they spread His Word, and taught that those who follow Christ are to obey their prelates, the prelates they were appointing and anointing, not whoever you thought should be your prelate but who had nver been anointed by the Apostoles.

Christ also described His Bride in ways that prove without a doubt His Church is a visible, physical, reality, in this world now, as well as an invisible spiritual Church both now and forever. Jesus Christ established His one Church, not tens of thousands of churches. Anything except surrender leads to the same result; hearing Christ tell you, "I never knew you", even though you have a long list of things you claim to have done in His name as part of the church you preferred to the One True Church Jesus Christ Himself established.

70 posted on 03/22/2013 11:06:41 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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