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To: Jeff Chandler
So you're saying Pope Francis was just blowing smoke when he said politicians who vote for abortion should be denied communion. It's good to know that there are people who think a Pope blowing smoke and reversing himself makes for a joyous occasion.

This article is all a lie, then,
Pope Francis clear on denying Communion to those who facilitate abortion

And this one is meaningless,
Vatican Chief Justice: Pro-Abortion Politicians Must Not Receive Holy Communion

because, "everyone knows" that standing up for what the Church teaches isn't all that important anyway.

I hope one of these days there will be an occasion those who are authorities on why it's always a good time to ignore what the Church teaches think is a suitable venue for the Pope to stand by what he said. Of course, it shouldn't be an occasion when someone might be so shocked that they use their desert fork instead of their salad fork when the salad is served.

112 posted on 03/16/2013 7:25:50 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin
So you're saying Pope Francis was just blowing smoke when he said politicians who vote for abortion should be denied communion.

No, I am saying that Pope Francis cannot possibly have control over the entire Vatican like some kind of dictator, not after a few days as pope, perhaps not ever. The Vatican is run by a bureaucracy, and that bureaucracy reflects the wishes of the bureaucrats. To think that one man can come in and whip it into shape in a matter of days is ridiculous. And how do we know he would be willing to embarrass his guests and cause an international uproar over this? John Paul II wasn't. Benedict XVI wasn't.

And we know Timothy Cardinal Dolan wasn't:    

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What Pope Francis said as cardinal is to be commended. It was strong words-WORDS. If I were to see documentation that a single Argentinian politician was denied communion, I would be even more impressed.

This is our great concern, but we mustn't fool ourselves into believing it is the Catholic hierarchy's concern. We conservative Catholics want our shepherds to be strong leaders, to stand up against the scandal of pro-abort, homosexual-promoting politicians' profaning of the Holy Eucharist, but where have they ever done this? Show me ONE credible report of one of these "Catholic" politicians actually being refused Communion anywhere in the world. ONE.

118 posted on 03/16/2013 9:55:52 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?)
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To: Rashputin
And this one is meaningless, Vatican Chief Justice: Pro-Abortion Politicians Must Not Receive Holy Communion

From that article:

In 2004, as archbishop of St. Louis, Burke said he would not serve Communion to then-presidential candidate John Kerry (D-Mass.), now the secretary of State, because of his pro-abortion views.

And from the Papal mass in 2008:

Unless everybody's on the same page, words are meaningless.

122 posted on 03/16/2013 10:23:47 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?)
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