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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I am not a Catholic, but I was definitely not pleased to hear that this Pope was a South American Jesuit. That is, after all, the root of Liberation Theology (aka Christianized Marxism). I found it worrying the moment I heard his claim to fame was “social justice”. I’m sorry, but when the Catholic church starts talking “social justice” it often/usually means support for big government social welfare liberalism.

When Ratzinger was named Pope I was confident and happy with the news - and I know almost all political conservatives of all faiths felt the same way. This time, not so much. People are putting a brave face on and talking up the good things about this new leader, but I think on the economic issues Pope Francis is a big question mark so far. I absolutely admit that I could be totally wrong, but even the chance that the Catholic church could move further left on economic positions is just very unwelcome news.


14 posted on 03/15/2013 5:20:55 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969
I too am a non-catholic, so my knowledge is also limited, but am in total agreement with all you wrote.

Ann makes at least 7 reasoned points. (For the idiots reading this, reasoned does not necessarily mean correct). Yet most of the bozos responding only attacks Ann as a nut case. Not one of them writes where she is wrong. Yup, sounds like good libtards methods to me.

I pray and am sure Ann does also that she is found to be wrong. But methinks she may be dead on correct.

24 posted on 03/15/2013 5:42:26 PM PDT by saywhatagain
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To: Longbow1969

Agree with your post.

Ann’s 8 part video series on today’s economic situation is dead-on accurate.I don’t think she is nuts. She just see further over the horizon than most. And she lives her beliefs.

Not being Catholic, I cannot comment on her inside baseball on such matters. But I too, was, troubled when I heard the new Pope was a Jesuit and I hope he has not been contaminated by the American version of that order.He seems like a good and humble man from first impressions.

It is Georgetown University of covering up the cross for Obama fame, and Notre Dame of having pro-abortion Obama as the commencement speaker in 2009—both of Jesuit fame—that give me pause about all things Jesuit. And where did Sandra Fluke come from—Jesuit Georgetown University.

The new Pope will have to directly confront homosexual groups within his own church and adherence to church doctrine in all matters. For America, he will have to insist that “cafeteria” teachings are not acceptable. Doctrine is either believed or it is not. It is not optional from his position as the Pope. Even politicians who promote abortion can no longer find sanctuary from errant cardinals and bishops giving them moral and political cover.

I wish him and all Catholics well.


31 posted on 03/15/2013 5:56:46 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Longbow1969

You know, before you make assumptions, you might inform yourself. Even Rush Limbaugh, a non-Catholic for sure, paid enough attention to realize that
Jorge Mario Bergoglio was DESPISED by the Jesuit Liberation Theologians because he stood up to them.

He was basically exiled by his fellow Jesuits to the outlying provinces, teaching math and chemistry to high school kids.

John Paul II, that great bastion of eeeeeeeeevvvvvvvviiiiiiillllll Liberation Theology is the one who silently overrode the Jesuits and made the despised one a bishop, then archbishop, then cardinal, paving the way for him becoming pope.

He is no Liberation Theologian, he is the exact opposite. He comes from the same theological direction as Ratzinger and was one of Ratzinger’s strong backers in 2005 but lacks Ratzinger’s liturgical sense.

The SSPXers and radical Traditionalists (Barnhardt) have taken out after him as the Devil Incarnate. What they are doing is pure and simply evil. They are revealing their fundamentally schismatic inclinations. I am appalled at how they have treated their own Holy Father on the very first day of his pontificate. A pox on Ann Barnhardt and her ilk.


36 posted on 03/15/2013 6:10:26 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Longbow1969

There are many off-the-wall Jesuits. There are also a number of good and holy Jesuits: Mitch Pacwa at EWTN, Joseph Fessio at Ignatius Press, the late Fr. John Hardon, Paul Mankowski at one of the Roman Universities.

I could name a dozen more. Too few, yes. But simply assuming that all Jesuits are dissenters from Catholic teaching or proponents of Liberation Theology is just as bad as what the proponents of Liberation Theology do: distort the truth.

To pass judgment on a person based on guilt by association is an unChristian thing to do, whether one is Catholic or not.


39 posted on 03/15/2013 6:16:42 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Longbow1969

In Argentina, Father Bergoglio was disliked by leftist since the 70’s. That alone, says alot about him. Cardinal Bergoglio opposed the Socialist governments of both, husband and then wife, Kirshners, to the point of being accused being head of the opposition. His confrontation were things like contradicting government reports of poverty, with his own reports, reminding people that poverty had actually increased. Etc. My Argentinian friend says that Christina Kirshner tried to put him in jail. He is a threat to leftist liberals, and that is why the media is in a frenzy.


79 posted on 03/16/2013 5:46:53 AM PDT by mgist
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