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To: Jmouse007

RE: This “pope” is not “an advocate of the Gospel, or the person of Christ whatsoever.

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OK, let’s agree on this for the meantime.

My question was not about doctrine however, my question is about the fight to maintain our liberty to worship without government interference.

Is it not possible to disagree doctrinaly YET UNITED on MORAL ISSUES we agree with?

For instance, when Obama forces religious institutions ( which will include non-Catholic Christian institutions ) to pay for abortificents, when the municipalities force Christians to pay for gay “spouses” and force boys scouts to accept gay scout leaders, CAN’T WE AS NON-CATHOLICS WORK TOGETHER WITH CATHOLICS TO FIGHT AGAINST THIS INFRINGEMENT ON OUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS?


38 posted on 03/15/2013 2:12:39 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

And while the Church will fight... Sola Scriptura will allow many individuals to claim that Jesus told them to give unto Ceasar.


83 posted on 03/16/2013 7:10:42 PM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: SeekAndFind; Jmouse007; Alex Murphy; All
38 posted on 3/15/2013 4:12:39 PM by SeekAndFind: “Is it not possible to disagree doctrinaly YET UNITED on MORAL ISSUES we agree with? For instance, when Obama forces religious institutions ( which will include non-Catholic Christian institutions ) to pay for abortificents, when the municipalities force Christians to pay for gay “spouses” and force boys scouts to accept gay scout leaders, CAN’T WE AS NON-CATHOLICS WORK TOGETHER WITH CATHOLICS TO FIGHT AGAINST THIS INFRINGEMENT ON OUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS?”

Absolutely. We need to distinguish between our doctrinal problems with Roman Catholics — which are significant and cannot be minimized and must prevent us from joining each other's churches, as well as many types of cooperation between evangelicals and Roman Catholics in the church sphere — and how we can, should, and in the modern American context probably **MUST** cooperate with Roman Catholics in the sphere of the state.

I wrote more on that here today: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3001542/posts?page=172#172

Key excerpt from my statements regarding Abraham Kuyper:

“Perhaps even more important, Kuyper developed a doctrine of ‘co-belligerence,’ one later adopted by men such as Francis Schaeffer and D. James Kennedy, which outlined the way in which strictly conservative Christians can and should maintain their doctrinal standards within the sphere of their own churches while cooperating in the sphere of the state with people in other churches, most significantly Roman Catholics, on areas where we can agree. That means I do not have to agree with Roman Catholic doctrine to work with a Roman Catholic in the pro-life movement, and the same goes for an orthodox Jew or even a secular conservative. That is a very, very important development in Christian political theology, and it laid the groundwork not only for Kuyper’s success in the Netherlands but also for much of the modern Christian conservative movement in the United States.”

149 posted on 03/28/2013 1:47:57 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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