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To: verga

Jesus took the bread and broke it and said this is my body, it is broken just for you. (or something like that)

Thank you for a perfect example proving my point. Words mean things and the Word of God means very specific things not "something like that."

Nit picking at it's finest verga.

Jesus did take the bread and broke it. He did say This is my body. He did say to eat it. It was broken just for us.

Because of the apparent OCD in your previous post, "something like that" was used because I did not post in the original Greek, but gave a quite accurate English translation verbatim style.

Do you not believe that Jesus said those things? I can show you the scriptures if you like.

Now that the picked nits have been put to rest, let's see what else you have to say...

You are (or should be) that the New Testament was originally written in Greek

That makes no sense. Can you repeat that in the original Geek..er..Greek?

Or maybe translate into an understandable English sentence structure thingie.

I am not claiming to know either the heart or mind of God...

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. 16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.--1 Corinthians 2:14-16

5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God--Philippians 2:5,6

The Bible is full of little gems such as the above to help us, through the helpful ministry of the Holy Spirit, understand God and the scriptures.

You give some vague references to scriptures and then give your opinion of what they mean.

I find it easier to understand scripture by looking at them, but you did not post the ones your referenced, nor provided a link.

I don't have time to study how the Jews observe Passover, however they wish to do it is fine with me.

The rest of your post is what Penny calls jibber jabber.

I would also would like to mention the length of my post; I like to back up my conclusions with scripture, plus impart Biblical truths to people I discuss issues with to help them understand the mind of God.

An afterthought:

Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.  33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.  34 Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread.

35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.--John 6, 32-35

His followers understood what he meant, and partook of the Bread of life by coming to Him...and he promised them they would never hunger or thirst. They were spiritually fulfilled.

The rest of John 6 is primarily Jesus dealing with the murmuring Jews and their disbelief.

And then on to the disciples who saw this as a "hard teaching." Nevertheless, they "got" it. I will leave you with verse 63 where Jesus said:

The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for NOTHING. The words I have spoken to you—they are full of the Spirit [or are Spirit] and life (NIV)

139 posted on 03/19/2013 5:51:00 PM PDT by Syncro (Hebrews 11:1-Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen)
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To: Syncro
You are (or should be) that the New Testament was originally written in Greek

Should have read: You are (or should be) aware that the New Testament was originally written in Greek.

Thank you for confirming my earlier statement as well: The reason I rarely waste time with these discussions is that when I was a protestant I was not willing to listen to the truth until the Holy Spirit moved me. I have learned that most Prots have the exact same mind set. That is not a personal attack it is a simple statement of fact.

140 posted on 03/19/2013 6:41:03 PM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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