Book of Mormon presents a violent destructive Jesus at time of crucifixion [Vanity]

Colofornian | March 15, 2013 | Colofornian

[Colofornian]

From the article: Mormon leaders have written an italicized intro to each chapter within the Book of Mormon. With Easter approaching, it's interesting what the Latter-day Saint “snapshot” is of the crucified Jesus – per the Book of Mormon. If you have a Book of Mormon, you can turn to 3 Nephi chapters 8 and 9 and read the Mormon leader intro to these two chapters: Chapter 8: Tempests, earthquakes, fires, whirlwinds, and physical upheavals attest to the crucifixion of Christ – Many people are destroyed – Darkness covers the land for three days—Those who remain bemoan their fate. Chapter 9: In the darkness the voice of Christ proclaims the destruction of many people and cities for their wickedness...Now we need to note something here: The Bible does proclaim an earthquake occurring upon Jesus' death. But it wasn't a scene of destruction; in fact, just the opposite: ”The earth shook, the rocks split 52 and the tombs broke open. The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. 53 They came out of the tombs after Jesus’ resurrection and went into the holy city and appeared to many people. 54 When the centurion and those with him who were guarding Jesus saw the earthquake and all that had happened, they were terrified, and exclaimed, “Surely he was the Son of God!” The Bible knows of no massive destruction accompanying the crucifixion -- or of a Jesus voice pronouncing the destruction of many people and cities! This is pure myth, introduced by Mormons in the Book of Mormon. So...what kind of massive “Gospel destruction” does this “restored Mormon gospel” present? What kind of a violent Mormon jesus is this? When the Mormon jesus dies, he unleashes punishment and levels 16 cities, killing an estimated 70,000- 90,000 people (see 3 Nephi 8 and 3 Nephi 9).

[stuartcr]

another good one, kudos

[SkyDancer]

Get rid of all those “and it came to pass” and the BOM would just be a few pages. Good post too!

[svcw]

Wow, just wow.

[dragonblustar]

Sounds like the Muslim version of Jesus, when he returns and coverts to Islam then goes around killing the non Muslims.

[Alex Murphy]

The Bible knows of no massive destruction accompanying the crucifixion -- or of a Jesus voice pronouncing the destruction of many people and cities! This is pure myth, introduced by Mormons in the Book of Mormon. So...what kind of massive “Gospel destruction” does this “restored Mormon gospel” present? What kind of a violent Mormon jesus is this? When the Mormon jesus dies, he unleashes punishment and levels 16 cities, killing an estimated 70,000- 90,000 people (see 3 Nephi 8 and 3 Nephi 9).

[freedomlover]

There is a full page painting in a BOM that I saw in someone’s house once that shows a Mormon Jesus walking towards the viewer with fire and destruction behind him. I cant seem to find it online I may have to scan it.

I asked a Mormon about this and they were very evasive.

“But they’re such nice people.” On the street that is. Pull back the curtain and see what they tell their kids about you the unbeliever or worse still one who has left the cult.

[Normandy]

I’m not one to rejoice in the destruction on anyone, but I don’t see what is recorded in the Book of Mormon being any different in character to what is recorded in the Bible.

In Genesis God sent floods upon the earth to destroy those who he considered wicked enough to be taken from the earth.

Also, looking to the future, Revelation tells us that Jesus will cleanse the earth again:

Revelation 19: 11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse, and He who sat on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and wages war.

12. His eyes are a flame of fire, and on His head are many diadems; and He has a name written on Him which no one knows except Himself.

13. He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.

14. And the armies which are in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, were following Him on white horses.

15. From His mouth comes a sharp sword, so that with it He may strike down the nations, and He will rule them with a rod of iron; and He treads the wine press of the fierce wrath of God, the Almighty.

16. And on His robe and on His thigh He has a name written, “KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.”

[ejonesie22]

So I guess you say the same about good Muslims or Hindus or Buddhist, because their”good deeds” are Christan too, but such standards...

[ejonesie22]

Don’t forget the poster added "the Catholics". Sheesh, how many times do we have to explain this.

Wait, that is not the point, is it “repeat the lie often enough”...

Hum...

Makes on wonder about the posters intent and agenda...

[svcw]

You are correct.
I was just so confused as to what Shiners had to do with mormonism.

[Colofornian]

I’m not one to rejoice in the destruction on anyone, but I don’t see what is recorded in the Book of Mormon being any different in character to what is recorded in the Bible.

(But that's just it...none of these alleged whirlwinds & tempests & floods & mud massacres mentioned @ the time of Jesus' crucifixion are mentioned in the Bible...right?)

Beyond that...yes, there is a time to kill...but @ Jesus crucifixion, that wasn't the time...

There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: 2 a time to be born and a time to die, a time to plant and a time to uproot, 3 a time to kill and a time to heal, a time to tear down and a time to build, 4 a time to weep and a time to laugh, a time to mourn and a time to dance, 5 a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them, a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing, 6 a time to search and a time to give up, a time to keep and a time to throw away, 7 a time to tear and a time to mend, a time to be silent and a time to speak, 8 a time to love and a time to hate, a time for war and a time for peace. (Ecclesiastes 3:1-8)

If you come along with some purported "revelation" Normandy...that says that when Jesus was asked by his mother to produce wine for the wedding...that He instead laid waste to all the drunkards present...I don't think you'd have either that "timing" down right...nor have a genuine revelation!

[MHGinTN]

The first little difference, Normandy, is one of the books is authored by God speaking through His chosen scribes, the other is authored by someone else pushing the imagination of a conman dictating to ‘a scribe’. The usual Mormon/LDS effort to conflate the two is impossible for folks like you to acknowledge, but non-Mormon Christians sense it immediately as God’s Spirit within pricks their spirit.

[MHGinTN]

Good behavior is not an indication of Christ within. I have known some very good Hindus, and at least one very fine agnostic who's life was lived in an exemplary fashion. And it goes without saying that even those with Christ within can and do fail to live up to the family name, but they have a Savior to Whom they return for spiritual cleansing and rejuvenation. As you possibly know, however, the evidence of continuous failing is a strong sign that Christ is not within that soul. And deception, such as claiming to worship a false christ, and denial of Biblical truth, are sure signs of such a lost soul.

Here's something borrowed from Freeper William Clark, illustrating how one can have faith in 'a' Christ but not the true Savior Christ:

"I always like to use the analogy of Jim Caviezel [In Mel Gibson's 'The Passion of The Christ']. Like the Mormon Jesus, he dressed the part, spoke the same words (in the original language, no less), and was referred to as Jesus Christ within a specific context, but it makes all the difference in the world whether one worships and depends upon him for their salvation or the genuine article."

Just to avoid contention, are Christians ordered to be just fine with LDS blasphemies and heretical teaching from Mormonism which are antithetical to Christianity?

[Boogieman]

Yes, that’s pretty much the image that Mormons have painted me of what they think Jesus is like. They seem offended that Jesus might have been a meek, unassuming man; they really want a buff, manly Jesus ready to kick butt. The fact is, Jesus will kick many butts, but He doesn’t need any muscles to it, besides the one in His tongue.

[svcw]

Yep, mormonism does portray their jesus as buff physically but insufficient to save.
As, mormonism teaches that mormons must work for their salvation.