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To: patlin
Most cults deny the deity of Jesus Christ.
That God was manifested in the flesh in the person of Jesus Christ Yeshua Messiah.

The great mystery of godliness ? what is the great mystery of Godliness ?
Paul says it right here in I Timothy 3:16.

16. And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

That God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit... that's Jesus Christ... that's Godliness.
Those who are in Christ have been made righteous, justified, holy.

All the worlds religions, and cults require " WORKS " to get into heaven.
The Jehovah Witness deny that Jesus Christ was God in the flesh, and require " WORKS " .
The Masons require " WORKS " .
The Mormons require " WORKS ".
The Buddhists require " WORKS ".


Just because someone says that they are " WALKING IN THE SPIRIT " does not mean they are walking in the spirit of GOD or are from GOD.
What does Paul mean by walking in the " SPIRIT " ?

Not walking in the confidence of the flesh...

Yeah, we are the circumcision we worship GOD in the spirit and rejoice in Christ Jesus and have no confidence in the flesh... i.e. ( walking in the flesh is believing that your salvation is by works or keeping the law. )
That's what walking in the flesh means.... human efforts, works, keeping the law.
Those who are already in Christ are or have been made Godly, whole, righteous, justified.

217 posted on 07/18/2013 3:59:02 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist
Have you never read and understood John 14-17 and the importance of the Spirit of Truth whom Yeshua Messiah sends to us, to teach us, to guide us in order that we may walk our His truth?

Have you never read and understood Yeshua Messiah's words,

Joh 14:10 “Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak from Myself. But the Father who stays in Me does His works. 11 Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, otherwise believe Me because of the works themselves. 12 Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he shall do also." (See 1Pet 2:21-22)

Joh 14:15 “If you love Me, you shall guard My commands. (See Ex. 20:6, vv. 21&23, 1 John 5:2-3, 2 John v. 6) 16 And I shall ask the Father, and He shall give you another Helper, to stay with you forever – 17 the Spirit of the Truth, whom the world is unable to receive, because it does not see Him or know Him. But you know Him, for He stays with you and shall be in you."

Joh 14:20 “In that day you shall know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you."

So much for the big lie being promulgated that "He did it all so we do not have to because we are temporarily in this corruptible flesh". The Word of God put on corruptible flesh to prove to us that we can overcome, but not of ourselves, but of the Spirit of Truth that is sent to those who truly believe in Him. Where there is no trust in His Spirit of Truth, there the branches do not bear fruit because they prove that the seed of the Word of God is not truly in them for them to hear the words,

"Well done good and trustworthy servant"

. So, since we are servants, then who is our Master? Is it not written that we are slaves to whom we serve? So if one chooses to obey Messiah and serve the Father as He served the Father and commanded us to do likewise, how can there be any condemnation in that?

Joh 3:36 “He who believes (G4100) in the Son possesses everlasting life, but he who does not obey (G544) the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.”

KJV: Joh 3:36 He that believeth G4100 on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth G544 not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

G4100 pisteuō = From G4102; to have faith (in, upon, or with respect to, a person or thing), that is, credit; by implication to entrust (especially one’s spiritual well being to Christ): - believe (-r), commit (to trust), put in trust with.

G544 apeitheō = From G545; to disbelieve (willfully and perversely): - not believe, disobedient, obey not, unbelieving. So according to Hoggard's own bible translation, Hoggard is an unbelieving false prophet because he does not obey the Word of God. Hoggard's own "pure word of God according to Hoggard" convicts Hoggard but yet Hoggard refuses to see because of the darkness that he walks in out of his rejection of God's Spirit of Truth.

218 posted on 07/18/2013 7:57:42 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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