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To: patlin
And now that the Redeemer has resurrected, we have an advocate before the Father that covers our sins as long as in our hearts we are doing our best to obey the Father as the Son obeyed the Father.

Now THAT is false teaching.

We are not covered with Christ's blood after we've done all we can.

Forgiveness is a gift, freely given for the asking.

Ephesians 2:4-10 4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved— 6 and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.

110 posted on 03/10/2013 8:03:51 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
You confuse forgiveness with grace and ....

ABSOLUTELY, we can do nothing as to cause God to have to give us entrance into His eternal kingdom, that is salvation by works as opposed to works as evidence of ones receiving the seal of salvation by the grace of God. However, His grace does not and never has given mankind the license to disregard the Word of God. There are consequences for disobedience as Moses testifies to when he was not allowed to cross over into the Promised Land. It is called the ‘blessings’ and the ‘curses’. Blessed are those that do and cursed are those that do not.

So it would seem to me that you do not understand what His ‘helper’ is. Does a helper do all the work or does a helper guide one in learning to do the work themselves?

See John 14-17!

119 posted on 03/10/2013 8:38:18 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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