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To: Biggirl
The Holy Spirit will do his job. And God does help those who help themselves. We must educate all Catholics on who Cardinal Peter Turkson IS, that he is a Socialist from Ghana, and that he must not be elected Pope. We may not have any input on the election of the Pope, but we must be informed, and the Catholic Church and its Cardinals must understand that we will not stand for Socialism, in any form, in the Catholic Church. Socialism is evil, and secretive in its methods of infiltration..we must be aware of this fact and stop Socialism from fully infiltrating the Catholic Church, from infiltrating the position of Pope. We must be vocal in our opposition to this insidious infiltration into our very religion.
43 posted on 03/04/2013 8:11:23 AM PST by itssme
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To: itssme

Nothing to fear from Cd. Turkson. The Archduke-Elector will exercise his veto if he’s elected. /s


45 posted on 03/04/2013 9:00:12 AM PST by Oratam
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To: itssme

Nothing to fear from Cd. Turkson. The Archduke-Elector will exercise his veto if he’s elected. /s


46 posted on 03/04/2013 9:00:37 AM PST by Oratam
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To: itssme
If, by "socialism," you mean the Church's long-standing "preferential option for the poor," rooted in the Gospel of Matthew, the Sermon on the Mount, and in a series of encyclicals from Leo XIII's Rerum Novarum through Pius XI's Quadragesimo Anno through Blessed John XXIII's Mater et Magister through Paul VI's Populorum Progressio through Blessed John Paul II's Laborem Exercens and Sollicitudo Rei Socialis and Centissimus Annus, then you misuse the term. Socialism is state ownership of the means of production. Read Leo XIII's Rerum Novarum as to how socialism, so defined, does not conform to Catholicism. Those Church sources have nothing much in common with Marx or Engels.

The Church, however, is not likely to adopt as dogma the salutary writings of Ludwig von Mises or Friedrich von Hayek. The Catholic Church is a universal Church. Just as it was a very bad idea to sit still for Democrats to reference the Church as "the Democratic Party at prayer" so also is it a bad idea for the Church to become the "Republican Party at prayer." Certainly many members of both parties would object to being regarded as Catholic simply because of their political affiliations. Likewise, many Catholics would object to being regarded as members of either party just because they are Catholic.

The Catholic Church was designed to be a far larger tent than the Demonrats or the GOP. Political parties OTOH and religious denominations OTO have different purposes and different functions which sometimes intersect and often do not. If political conservatives do not want government to be playing Santa Claus with other people's money, that is fine, and the churches, Catholic and otherwise, will tend to fill the resulting gap much more efficiently with money voluntarily raised. If private charity is insufficient to care adequately for the poor, the disabled, the elderly, the deranged, then, at some level, government is likely to make up the difference. The more charity that is dispensed via voluntary contributions to churches and other private institutions, the less charity need be dispensed from money forcibly taken by taxes from citizens as citizens.

At the end of your post, you reference the Catholic Church as "our very religion." We have had thirty five years since John Paul II was elected by the second conclave of 1978. Assuming that you are Catholic, do you not agree that the Holy Spirit can influence a positive outcome of the conclave very well without your input or mine as laymen? That the Holy Spirit knows far better than you or me? That the voting cardinals,each and every one appointed by John Paul II or Benedict XVI has no need of listening to what "we will not stand for," nor any need to hear what the "progressives" will not stand for, nor what the pro-aborts may stand for, nor what those comfy with abominable perversions posing as "marriage" will not stand for, nor what the women's "ordination" and pro-lesbian bishops' caucus may not stand for, nor what those committed to ending priestly celibacy in the Latin Rite may not stand for.

As a Catholic, I am quite satisfied to know that these matters will be decided consistent with the Teaching Magisterium of the Church as has been the case for nearly two thousand years. Veni Creator! Viva Cristo Rey!

God bless you and yours!

51 posted on 03/04/2013 5:30:59 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em, Danno)
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