Posted on 03/02/2013 10:15:26 PM PST by TBP
Fox News anchor Bill O’Reilly, who is writing an upcoming book titled “Killing Jesus,” proclaimed on his program Wednesday night that “a lot of the Bible is allegorical,” and the New Testament Gospels contradict themselves.
O’Reilly made the remarks during an interview with “Touched by an Angel” star Roma Downey and her husband Mark Burnett, executive producers of “The Bible” TV miniseries which begins this Sunday night on the History Channel.
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I generally use the NIV. Lately I’ve been using the online version at
http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/New-International-Version-NIV-Bible/
The plural in this case is literal. “Elohim” is the plural of “Eloah”. The first chapter of the gospel of John expands on its literality, as does Hebrews 7.
God said, "Let the earth bring forth all kinds of living creatures: cattle, crawling creatures and wild animals." And so it was.
Genesis 1.24
This was the fifth day, and man was not yet created. He had already on the previous day created all the creatures of the sea as well as birds.
Then the Lord God said, "It is not good that the man is alone; I will make him a helper like himself." When the Lord God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field and the birds of the air, he brought them to the man to see what he would call them . . . the man named all the cattle, all the birds of the air and all the beasts of the field
Genesis 2.18-20
Here we see Man created and then all the animals, specifically and given by name including cattle and birds, both of which were specifically named in Genesis 1 as having been created before man. The same is true of plants and many other things as well, but this was the best example I think. It would be very hard to see this as anything other than a contradiction, unless one resorts to wildly strange ways of reading the text.
Matthew 27:3 Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned , repented himself , and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,
4 Saying , I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said , What is that to us? see thou to that. 5 And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed , and went and hanged himself . 6 And the chief priests took the silver pieces, and said , It is not lawful for to put them into the treasury, because it is the price of blood.
I can’t find anything that says Judas was satisfied with the reward for his treachery. These two examples indicate more of a condensation than a contradiction. Judas returned the money but the priests could not accept it and used it to purchase a field. In effect, the field comes from his perfidy, not because he personally handed the money over to the field’s owner.
In the 1599 Geneva version’s footnotes—”Acts 1:18 Luke considered not Judas’s purpose, but that that followed of it, and so we used to say, that a man hath procured himself harm, not that his will and purpose was so, but in respect of that which followed.”
He needed a chair, stool, or some kind of object to get higher to reach the branch on the tree to put the rope on a low hanging branch on a tree and stood on the chair and tripped it with his foot and as the weight of his body broke the rope he fell head first onto the rock, or sharp piece of wood below him cutting him wide open..... now that sounds more like it and the bible does not contradict it’s self.
Humility being one of the biggest missed lessons.
If the holy spirit doesn't talk to Bill, then Bill is wandering in the dark. Pity him, and pray for God to reveal himself to him.
Why can we not have inerrant copies of the Bible today?
Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy
Are the Biblical Documents Reliable?
Do the Resurrection accounts HOPELESSLY contradict one another?
On one hand, nonbelievers, and Obama guard dog O’Reilly is possibly one of them imo, have been pointing out seeming contradictions in the Bible for the last 1900+ years.
In fact, 1 Corinthians 1:18 indicates that the message of the gospels is perceived as nonsense to those who are perishing.
On the other hand, when you consider that certain passages in the many English Bible translations disagree with each other, the possibility that translators who were unfamiliar with Hebrew and Greek figures of speech simply missed the side of the barn with respect to their armchair guesses as to what a given passage means must be taken into consideration.
Interestingly, a Hebrew as first language member of another message board had commented that the KJV translation is the worst English translation of Bible that he’s ever read. And if I understand correctly, not only is modern Hebrew different from ancient Hebrew, but various books of the Old Testament are known to be written in different Hebrew dialects; just more hurdles for translators to jump.)
Finally, note that regardless that Jesus’ apostles essentially studied the Scriptures from the same scrolls that Jesus did, Luke 24:44-45 indicates the folloiwng. The apostles had failed to connect events in Jesus’ life that they had been eyewitnesses to with prophecies concerning the Messiah until Jesus opened their minds as to how things that He had done related to prophecy.
Many early Jewish and Hebrew word concepts are lost in our translations.
of course surface paradoxes, false gospels, and outright errors about what the Bible says abound, we all hear them, usually from fools like oreilly. people who want to find contradictions will of course find them. our Lord apparently doesn’t want just anyone to understand His Word. however, i find that if i think long enough, listen to the wise and humble myself enough before my Lord, i’ve found that my misunderstandings are gradually harmonized with what is demonstrated about Creation and the Word. the *apparent* contradictions have so far been both temporary and all of my own making.
“EVERY ONE” does not agree that there are contradictions. Since God is perfect, it is impossible for Him to contradict Himself.
“US” is the trilogy. God the Father, Jesus the Son and The Holy Spirit. Gos manifests himself in 3 ways.
Eyewitness accounts so seldom match down to every last detail that it’s actually supicious when they do. The fundamental facts are corroborated, though. Every observer does not see or take note of every thing identically. They’re not observing from the same vantage point or even the same location. There will be variations in truthful accounts from credible, reliable witnesses. They saw the same event from differing vantage points, locations, times and individual perspectives, therefore there was variation in their accounts.
I would suppose that this person would have a very hard time reconciling the fact that the King James Authorized Version of the Bible and the 1917 English Tanakh of the Jewish Publication Society are extremely similar, then.
Interestingly, a Hebrew as first language member of another message board had commented that the KJV translation is the worst English translation of Bible that he’s ever read
Roger that.
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