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To: daniel1212
The way souls came to believe on Christ

By grace through faith. Our discussion is not specifically relevant to this I think.

look to Scripture as supreme and establishing truth thereby, not based on its claimed charism of infallibility.

Again does your church holds to a key teaching definitively and absolutely and then say" "but we could be wrong about this."?

I don't think it comes to this teaching based on its infallibility, that's kind of backwards isn't it?

Maybe this is a subtle difference. But I think it is heading off from the topic of sola scriptura.

And the Church most definitely looks to Scripture - in the deposit of faith - just not your, perhaps, interpretation of it, and not conforming to the doctrine of sola scriptura.

319 posted on 03/05/2013 10:23:45 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
By grace through faith. Our discussion is not specifically relevant to this I think.

It is as what this means is a matter of interpretation, and pertains to "one faith." The early church is not manifest as baptizing infants, and who then are justified by an inner holiness and treated as Christians who may become perfect so as to enter Heaven through grace ritually dispensed, and then (usually) postmortem sufferings commencing at death, but as damned and destitute sinners whose faith the risen Lord to saved them by His sinless shed blood is counted for righteousness. (Rm. 3:10-5:1)

And which faith is confessed in baptism and works righteousness in following the Lord Jesus, (Acts 2:28; 10:43-47) and which works vindicate them as having true faith, (1Thes. 1:9; Heb. 6:9,10) which is rewarded, (Heb. 10:35) and who can have assurance of eternal life thereby, based upon what is written. (1Jn. 5:13)

Again does your church holds to a key teaching definitively and absolutely and then say" "but we could be wrong about this."?

As understood by RCs (http://www.catholicplanet.com/TSM/general-magisterium.htm), there are different levels of magisterial teaching, some essential, pure basic truths without error (such as Jesus is Lord), and others allowing for some debate and disagreement, and SS type churches hold to some truths as essential, dissent from which disallows ordination and discipline if publicly known among members, while deeper aspects of which or other things can allow for a varying degree of interpretation.

I don't think it comes to this teaching based on its infallibility, that's kind of backwards isn't it?

Well, what is the basis for your assurance of faith in RC teaching?

And the Church most definitely looks to Scripture - in the deposit of faith

And again, the only meaning that has authority is that which Rome gives it, thus Scripture as an authority means little.

335 posted on 03/06/2013 1:22:22 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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