... of course until I pointed out that the “God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob” was the god of al least two confirmed polygamists and most likely three.
Your and Tennessee Nana’s brilliant response was that you believed in Jesus Christ ... not the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob .....
Well, Teppe, you weren't talking to me on the above, 'cause I've responded to the Abraham, Isaac and Jacob polygamy contention quite frequently on various threads (to other posters) in quite distinctive ways...and NEVER that I don't believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (because I do).
See what I mean, tho, Tep?
You dialogue so little you can't even recall one with me correctly.
There have been a NUMBER of other posters who would ask me, "Well, would you not vote for a Jewish candidate then?" (re: Romney the Mormon discussions). My standard response -- one I've given over a DOZEN times on FR -- is that with most Jewish candidates, their God is the god of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob...and, at least (unlike most Mormons)...we worship the SAME God.
Teppe, Isaac was NEVER a polygamist. The Bible knows only Rebekah as Isaac's wife. It was Joseph Smith trying to justify polygamy to Emma that he slipped his name into D&C 132.
As for Jacob, we all know the story of how he became a polygamist: Downright deception by his father-in-law. You wouldn't want to claim as your "prototype" for polygamy somebody where deception was the foundation, would you?
(Well Joseph Smith did...but we know he was in good company as a deceiver himself)
Anyway, Gen. 30 shows Jacob sleeping with both his wife's handmaidens as being pregnancy-rivalry based (see Gen. 30:1 and following)...it could hardly be described as a healthy household at that time.
Oh, and speaking of Jacob, 'tis good to know that you have apparently rejected the Book of Jacob in the Book of Mormon...well, at least those verses there that reject polygamy:
Polygamy and concubinage is described as less "righteous" (Jacob 3:5), an "abomination" (Jacob 2:24) with concubines "zeroed" out? (Jacob 2:27; 3:5): "...concubines ye shall have none..." (Jacob 2:27)
"Behold, the Lamanites...are more righteous than you; for they have not forgotten the commandment of the Lord, which was given unto our fathers--that they should have save it were one wife, and concubines they should have none... (Jacob 3:5) [cf. Ether 10:5]
As for Abraham, his final wife (Keturah) is listed in Genesis AFTER the listing for Sarah's death.
Beyond that, all you have to do is call the Biblical witnesses to the witness stand and hear what they have to say...because NOBODY beyond Sarai (Sarah) referenced her servant as a "wife" -- and then we only know of one time she did so before the servant slept with Abraham. In fact, we don't even know if Abraham had sex with Hagar more than once.
Read it all for yourself...as to who was still referencing Hagar as Sarah's servant (and NOT as Abraham's wife) AFTER Abraham had already slept with her:
Q Hagar, after Sarai gave you to Abram and Ishmael was conceived, did you still acknowledge Sarai as your "mistress" in your conversation with the Angel of the Lord? [female master]
A Yes. (Gen. 16:8)
Q Sarai, when you were in your early nineties when Isaac was a toddler, how did you characterize Hagar?
A I told Abraham, Get rid of that slave woman and her son, for that slave woman's son will never share in the inheritance with my son, Isaac. (Gen. 21:10)
Q Abraham, after Sarah gave you Hagar and you slept with her, how did you characterize Hagar?
A I told Sarah, as mistress (master) of her servant, Your servant is in your hands. Do with her whatever you think best. (Gen. 16:6)
Q When Sarah began to mistreat her servant, Hagar, did you intervene like what we might expect a husband to do?
A No. Hagar was Sarah's servant.
Q Angel of the Lord, when you called to Hagar after she conceived Ishmael, how did you reference her?
A Servant of Sarai (Gen. 16:8)
Q And when you conversed with Hagar, did you, Angel of the Lord, acknowledge that she was released from her servant role to Sarai?
A No. In fact, I told her Go back to your mistress and submit to her. (Gen. 16:9)
QSo, it's not recorded that you told Hagar to go back to Abraham, or to your husband Abraham?
A No
Q Moses, since you wrote Genesis, how did you identify Hagar in her last reference of that book? Did you link her to Abraham?
A No. I identified her as "Sarah's maidservant" (Gen. 25:12).
Q So in that same passage, you link Ishmael to Abraham, but you link Hagar only to Sarah?
A Yes.
Q Apostle, Paul How did the Holy Spirit lead you to interpret the Old Covenant as expressed through Abraham?
A For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and the other by the free woman. His son by the slave woman was born in the ordinary way; but his son by the free woman was born as the result of a promise. These things may be taken figuratively, for the women represent two covenants. One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar. Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother...Now you brothers, like Isaac, are children of promise. At that time the son born in the ordinary way persecuted the son born by the power of the Spirit. It is the same now. But what does the Scripture say? 'Get rid of the slave woman and her son, for the slave woman's son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman's son.' Therefore, brothers, we are not children of the slave woman, but of the free woman. (Gal. 4:21-31)
Sorry, Teppe. Abraham NEVER calls Hagar his "wife" (or even his concubine) in the Bible. Nor does Moses. Nor does the apostle Paul in Galatians 4. Nor does the Angel of the Lord in the very chapter where all this is described.
And even a few years after Isaac's birth, Sarah is referencing her as that "slave woman" (Gen. 21:10) -- NOT as either an equal "wife" or even as a "concubine"!!!
(This is what happens Teppe when you fail to study the Bible)
(Forgot to ping you to last post)