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To: presently no screen name
Learn the difference between infants and children before you go off showing how much you don’t know about Scripture.

I'll try and avoid responding in like manner, if I fail please forgive me. Discussing God's Word shouldn't raise bile, unless of course you misuse it.

Psalm 8:2

2 Out of the mouth of babes and nursing infants

You have ordained strength,

Because of Your enemies,

That You may silence the enemy and the avenger

Psalm 22:9

9 But You are He who took Me out of the womb;

You made Me trust while on My mother’s breasts.

Looks like I have the same problem as the Holy Spirit and David, I can't tell the difference between a child and an infant. That's OK, as I think I'll side with them. It seems plain.

84 posted on 02/25/2013 7:50:21 AM PST by xone
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To: xone
If such as the approach you seemingly take be true (I won't dispute the validity, even as I need guess at what you may mean) then wouldn't that leave "sprinkling" babies as baptismal ceremony, superflous?

Why would the baby be in need? According to what you reference, they are taken care of.

Far from justifing infant baptismal, or the need for such, what you bring helps serve to PROVE THE OPPOSITE.

Can you not see that?

85 posted on 02/25/2013 8:11:57 AM PST by BlueDragon (what do you mean he has bullet holes in his mirrors?)
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To: xone; BlueDragon
Psalm 22:9 But You are He who took Me out of the womb; You made Me trust while on My mother’s breasts.

This is a prophetic psalm! You have NO clue who David is prophesying about. Read the WHOLE Psalm - not cherry pick 'children/babes in womb' Scriptures to suit your ill teaching of infant baptism!

Does this apply to David?

Psalm 22 ...'they pierced my hands and my feet. 17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me. 18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.'

I'm not surprised you didn't recognize JESUS, not surprised at all.

Psalm 22:1 "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"

These words were quoted by Jesus on the cross (Matthew 27:46 and Mark 15:34). Psalm 22 was a prophetic psalm, and it was Jesus speaking. We deserved to be forsaken for our sins, so Jesus took our sins and bore our rejection by God.

Psalms 22:3 gives the reason why the Father forsook His Son. It was because Jesus became sin for us (2 Corinthians 5:21 and 1 Peter 2:24).

A number of verses from Psalms 22 were quoted in the New Testament and applied directly to Jesus’ death on the cross.

So much for your ill teaching of infant baptism you are so hard in pushing. Now where would that deception come from?

'Someone' wants you deceived as you bought it hook, line and sinker and then brought it here to deceive others while claiming to be like David and the Holy Spirit with your.. Looks like I have the same problem as the Holy Spirit and David, I can't tell the difference between a child and an infant. That's OK, as I think I'll side with them. It seems plain..

And you don't even recognize JESUS.

"And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." Matt 7:23

93 posted on 02/25/2013 9:44:19 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: xone; P-Marlowe

Psalm 8:2 is definitely saying that more than one babe or suckling infant is involved. Even the youngest, apparently in their own way, can praise God.

So far as infant baptism is concerned, it is a sign act that really is no different than circumcision at 8 days old for a Hebrew male. That Hebrew baby didn’t know what was taking place (so far as we know), but it was nonetheless incorporated into the body of believers.

That is the same with sign-baptism and the Church era. We baptize to show that the children, too, are part of, and the responsibility of, the church. Their inclusion is probationary until they accept for themselves the truth of the gospel message. Our responsibility as parents is to dedicate ourselves to ensuring they know that message.

The Apostle Paul did say that our children are set aside by God.

1 Co 7: 14 For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.

In other words, the family members of believers are sanctified (set apart) in the eyes of God who has them in a favorable position as opposed to those who are not set apart.

This helps to understand the “household” baptism comments in Acts 16 & 18, Lydia, the Jailer, and Crispus. The Lord takes our loved ones into special care.

Acts 16: 14 One of those listening was a woman named Lydia, a dealer in purple cloth from the city of Thyatira, who was a worshiper of God. The Lord opened her heart to respond to Paul’s message. 15 When she and the members of her household were baptized, she invited us to her home. “If you consider me a believer in the Lord,” she said, “come and stay at my house.” And she persuaded us.

Given that truth, that our loved ones are viewed as set apart by God, His working on them will be continuous. Therefore, it makes sense to administer a sign of baptism on our children and to consider them a part of the church until they receive it for themselves.


114 posted on 02/27/2013 7:26:02 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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