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To: annalex

If the priests were suddenly allowed to marry, then you would have homosexuals wanting to marry their “partners”, and a whole other can of worms would be opened. Besides, the homos would still not get married to other women, as they have no desire to do so, and they would continue to molest little boys. How is allowing straight men to marry in the church going to stop homos from molesting boys?


87 posted on 02/24/2013 5:58:02 PM PST by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: murron
If the priests were suddenly allowed to marry, then you would have homosexuals wanting to marry their “partners”, and a whole other can of worms would be opened. Besides, the homos would still not get married to other women, as they have no desire to do so, and they would continue to molest little boys. How is allowing straight men to marry in the church going to stop homos from molesting boys?

You're missing my point. The thing that the RCC must do to reform itself and thereby to avoid even worse disasters is to remove all homosexuals from the clergy. That is to say, anybody with a homosexual orientation must be defrocked, regardless of behavior. They broke the most sacred trust imaginable by taking holy orders when they knew that they did so in direct contravention of Papal directives. It follows that they have no right to remain in the dignity of the priesthood and that they must be removed.

But the question then arises "who will remove them?" The only way they could possibly be blasted out of their clerical satrapies is to flood them with a new cohort of ambitious, heterosexual men who want those positions for themselves.

How do we ensure that this new cohort is heterosexual? We require them to be married before ordination, and of course in addition to all the other vetting procedures that any sane organization would have had in place years ago anyway.

It's basic HR. It's basic politics. "The cadres determine everything." If you have the celibacy rule, then as BXVI said above, you get lots of men into your seminaries who don't want to get married anyway (albeit his denial let him term it only as a future risk!). After they're ordained, they'll set up bureaucratic structures that will protect and advance their own interests at the expense of the Church at large, and they'll move to ensure that the seminaries remove the threat of a heterosexual ascendancy by discouraging straights from joining. You'll then have a homosexual agenda in fact, let the Pope rail against it as he might.

But the same token, if you ensure that straight men with normal ambitions are ordained, they'll form a similar cohort that will seek to advance its own interests at the expense of the Lavender Mafia. And they'll win.

And along with them, we'll win.

Frankly, I see no other way.

90 posted on 02/24/2013 6:22:53 PM PST by Gluteus Maximus
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To: murron
How is allowing straight men to marry in the church going to stop homos from molesting boys?>

You don't have to convince me. You are absolutely right.

Further, a priest who is sexually active has already broken his vows; what is to make him respect marital vows?

127 posted on 02/25/2013 5:15:57 AM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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