[Iscool]

Pope Pius IX in his teaching on "invincible ignorance" pretty much destroyed the interpretation that Unam Sanctum meant that non-Catholics cannot be saved. Pius IX pointed out that it was possible for one to

honestly not realize that the Catholic Church is Christ's Church, despaite the evidence ("invincible ignorance") and yet
still be saved, although without being a member of visible Catholic Church.

So all those countless numbers of dead Christians thru-out the Dark Ages at the hands of the Catholic religion for not bowing down to a pope was kind of an 'OOPS' moment for your religion???

I don't think so...I knowingly and willingly reject your religion and its leaders as a 'false' Christianity (while acknowledging there are Christians within the folds) and have no fear whatsoever that I may not be a genuine Christian...

[terycarl]

So all those countless numbers of dead Christians thru-out the Dark Ages at the hands of the Catholic religion for not bowing down to a pope was kind of an 'OOPS' moment for your religion???

nah...we just stir them in with the "witches" that the protestants burned at the stake and hope that God sorts them out!! oops

[Mrs. Don-o]

I know what you're talking about, brother iscool, but I think you've got your "Ages" mixed up.

Hold on here, what you want is "Renaissance," keywords "countless - numbers - dead - Christians," -- but let me explain.

The "Dark Ages" was when the monks, especially, were copying literature, re-establishing agriculture, saving civilization, and converting Huns, Goths, Vikings and Vandals.

The "Middle Ages" was when the Catholics were into founding cities, building cathedrals, starting universities, and trying to liberate the historic Christian heartland (Jerusalem, Antioch, Alexandria, Odessa) from hostile Muslims. Also 60% of the population died off from the Black Plague.

The "Renaissance" --- here's what you're looking for --- was when you had the European Wars of Religion (Link), featuring battles, executions and massacres of Anglicans vs Catholics, Lutherans vs Catholics, Puritans vs Anglicans, Anabaptists vs Lutherans, Calvinists vs Anabaptists, and altogether hundreds of thousands of dead Christians splattered across hundreds of murderous principalities over the course of over 150 years.

This horror-show contributed, in no small measure, to a persistent revulsion against religion in Europe, the "Enlightenment" and eventually the French Revolution and on to the "Modern Age," a.k.a. the Age of Murder.

My own evaluation of it is: these people imposed a present hell on each other in a thoroughly inter-churchy multi-denominational way here, and got their recompense from a just God in the hereafter.

As an image of how Christians ought to relate, I prefer what Paul said (tagline).