It is useful to keep talking, only if you’re able to be taught. Otherwise, you’re wasting my time and wearying me.
This is my last post on this thread:
First, I don’t set the standard, God does. His Holy Bible is clear on ex nihilo creation, there is pre-Genesis matter being worked on. That doesn’t destroy the majesty, power and wonder of His creation. It just means it wasn’t, as recored in the Bible, ex nihilo.
Reading it again will help:
Here’s Genesis 1: http://bible.cc/genesis/1-1.htm and 2: http://bible.cc/genesis/1-2.htm
Young’s Literal Translation makes it clearest:
In the beginning of God’s preparing the heavens and the earth — the earth hath existed waste and void, and darkness is on the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God fluttering on the face of the waters,
That’s verse 1 and 2 from Young’s Literal. It is obvious now, no?
The Biblical text states clearly that the earth in its void/formless/empty state was there to be worked on already. It’s existance doesn’t undermine the power, authority or majesty of God.
His first act is contained in Gen. 1:3. He tames chaos/disorder by immediately declaring light. There are a lot of great scientific attributes of light that make this beginning so amazing. There are also wonderful religious metaphors for light, not the least of which is joy.
So enjoy yourself, God and His Holy Word.
But one will have to forgive a lowly cretin such as myself if I am not swayed by the words of one who themselves will not speak for what belief system they stand for, nor speak as to what they base the ability to remove ignorance from us ignorant (and obviously petulant) rubes.
I know its silly but if some one wants to “remove my ignorance” i would like some basis on which to assure myself that they are not actually making it real...
But one will have to forgive a lowly cretin such as myself if I am not swayed by the words of one who themselves will not speak for what belief system they stand for, nor speak as to what they base the ability to remove ignorance from us ignorant (and obviously petulant) rubes.
I know its silly but if some one wants to “remove my ignorance” i would like some basis on which to assure myself that they are not actually making it real...