[spirited irish]

“Let’s stick to the Bible. I don’t accept the beliefs of men ...”

Spirited: Before this discussion continues, you need to come out of hiding from behind your ‘covers’ and very clearly identify your worldview propositions, for example, do you argue from an LDs belief system, or perhaps an evolutionary theist, pantheist New Age, dialectical materialist or Luciferian Theosophist position?

Every one of these stances hold to some type of thinking regarding a deity or lack thereof and the Bible, hence your lead statement, “Let’s stick to the Bible,” has meaning according to each position.

[ejonesie22]

I have been trying to get 1010 to be straight forward on that subject for some time. It's all part of the game though. Declare yourself superior but don't have the courage of your convictions to actually state what you base that on or where you hang your spiritual hat.

It is entertaining when folks are too cleaver by half...

[1010RD]

Nonsense, you already know my position. The Bible is its own evidence. Does the Bible say what you think it says? No.

Now, you’re entitled to your opinion, there are millions of them on the Bible, Christianity and Salvation; but you’re not entitled to your own facts.

Using the fact of Genesis 1:1-3 your thesis for ex nihilo creation is disproved. You can continue to cling to it, that’s your choice to believe as you wish. I’ve simply pointed out the error in your supposition on the facts.

Oftimes though, faith needs to fly in the face of facts. Think of Peter’s experience on the water. While he acted in faith he remained upon the water, safe and sound. Once the facts penetrated and destroyed his faith, he submerged. Your choice, your faith, your salvation. Adieu.