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To: Lee N. Field
Reading through the link you provided, I'll have to add that to my lengthy list of "must read" books. Given that you recommend it and the year is young, I'll even put it in with what I hope to be able to afford this year.

I recommend "Before Jerusalem Fell" by Dr. Kenneth Gentry, Jr to anyone and everyone who brings up the subject of the impending "Surrender & Evacuation". As far as I'm concerned, there's no way to argue convincingly against what Gentry carefully sifts through to arrive at his conclusion that the book of Revelation was written in the early 60s AD, well before the 70 AD destruction of Jersusalem. That alone undermines a lot of the interpretations and variations on interpretations that are constantly being pumped out. If I recall correctly, he's a Presbyterian pastor or at least he was. He may have moved on to teaching or something by now.

I've wondered why Daniel being told words are closed up and sealed to the end of the time isn't more logically connected to Daniel being under the Old Covenant. His not seeing beyond the end of the OC makes a lot of sense to me but I haven't run anyone else who even considered that so I've never really dug into it. The book you've recommended looks like what could finally end my wondering about that point. As with Daniel who interpret to suit their own agenda, Christ makes a very detailed prophecy that fits the destruction of Jerusalem to a "T" but people rob Him of praise He is due and worthy of in order to fit His words their preconceptions. I don't see how that squares with following Christ and giving Him all Glory and Honor.

As I run into ever more twisted and fractured little Surrender & Evacuation stuff from people, I've realized just how little it would take for someone to trot out a strong delusion and draw the majority of people away from Christ without their even thinking about it. It seems like anything that has the "special knowledge" appeal of Gnosticism never fails to lead people astray.

Thanks a lot for the recommending this book and I hope things are doing well or better for you.

Regards

58 posted on 02/11/2013 8:19:47 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin
I've wondered why Daniel being told words are closed up and sealed to the end of the time isn't more logically connected to Daniel being under the Old Covenant.

Geerhardus Vos, in his Pauline Eschatology, has a chapter in which he deals with how time language changes from old testament to new, and how in the old there's often a kind of sliding perspective ("the latter days" doesn't always have the same referent). That might be worth a look for you.

Reading through the link you provided, I'll have to add that to my lengthy list of "must read" books. Given that you recommend it and the year is young, I'll even put it in with what I hope to be able to afford this year.

Which? Kline, or the whack-a-doodle 2012 book (soon to be available at find garage sales everywhere).? :-).

(Kline can mess with your head.)

I recommend "Before Jerusalem Fell" by Dr. Kenneth Gentry, Jr

Preterist postmillenial (to use modern categories), correct?

59 posted on 02/11/2013 8:41:38 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("You keep using that verse, but I do not think it means what you think it means." --I. Montoya)
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