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To: count-your-change
All Christians had to do was to recall Jesus’ words

Pretty easy to say in 2013. Not so easy in 213. All of the heretics had Scripture to back their heresy. They still do.

10 posted on 02/10/2013 10:36:17 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: don-o
An argument that the Scriptures are of no value in determining correct teachings? The author made the statement that Greek philosophy was the best tool at hand for understanding who God is and prayer.

You've surely read some Greek philosophy, maybe a bit of Philo, so if you agree please tell me what Greek philosophy would have been a help c.213 in understanding Matthew 6:5-16 or John chapter 17.

The true “heretics” have never been satisfied with the Scriptures, hence the Gnostics, the pseudo Gospels and reliance on pagan philosophies and traditions of men. Both Jesus and Paul warned of the inroads that were and would be made so why are their words on the subject so “blithely dismissed”?

11 posted on 02/10/2013 11:03:18 AM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: don-o
Pretty easy to say in 2013. Not so easy in 213. All of the heretics had Scripture to back their heresy. They still do.

That the backwardness of it...Just as this piece points out, Catholics rely on philosophers to understand and teach the words of God...

The words of God were kept hidden from the lay people and the lesser of the priesthood of the early Catholic religion so they couldn't see what God said...

And those that did/do get their hands on some scripture and believed it, you call heretics...The Apostle Paul had the same problem...

Act 24:14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:

15 posted on 02/10/2013 4:41:52 PM PST by Iscool (I love animals...barbequed, fried, grilled, stewed,,,,)
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