Posted on 02/09/2013 1:44:37 PM PST by NYer
And that's scriptural!
you sorely misunderstand the Church and Saints. Everyone who dies in Gods grace is a potential saint. That includes you and me. The canonization of a person merely points out that the church has determined (and it takes some doing) that a person has lived a life so exemplary that the church declares that the person is indeed in Heaven. They were there all along, the church just declares that she believes it too.
Saints [Catholic, Orthodox, Open]
SAINTHOOD 101: Rules for Becoming a Saint [Catholic Caucus]
The Process of Becoming a Saint (Canonization) [Catholic Caucus]
Pope Lists Criteria for Causes of Canonization
Every person who dies in God's Grace is a saint.
that is correct
“The process for Sainthood is a three-step process.”
Yea, except in the Holy Scriptures it is a one step process: entrust yourself to Christ’s payment for your sins and you are set apart for Him as a saint.
Anything else distorts God’s pronouncement and is man-made.
"Otranto, a miniscule town nestling around its harbor, makes an ideal base for exploring this part of the Adriatic. It's only an hour by tain from Lecce...and still very much a quiet Puglian backwater...Its history, however, is decidedly grim. One the last Byzantine towns to fall to the Normans, in 1070, Otranto remained a thriving port for crusaders, pilgrims, and traders. But in 1480 a Turkish fleet layed [sic] siege to the town, which held out for fifteen days before capitulating. It's said that as punishment the archbishop, upon capture, suffered the indignity of being sawn in half, a popular Turkish spectacle. Nearly 12,000 people lost their lives and the 800 survivors, refusing to convert, were taken up a nearby hill and beheaded."
I think he's on the other list.
Yes it is, unlike most of the man made traditions the vatican throws around.
Did you read any of the links?
Since when are miracles man-made?
Looks like a good time to buy shares in your local candle, velvet-painting, and plaster-statue manufacturer.
“No, I didn’t read the article.”
Well, then. Read the article.
Right. Which is why he nominated more than 800 slaughterd by the Muslims. Because der Panzerkardinel is PC.
So, get killed for refusing to convert to Islam and that makes a person a Saint? Kind of a low bar, really.
“The rest of the large group are the 813 martyrs of Otranto (Italy), killed by the Turks in the Fifteenth Century for not renouncing their faith.”
In the rush to denigrate the Faith, the obvious message being sent by Benedict to the Muslim world is missed.
No quarter. No giving way. No compromise.
“So, get killed for refusing to convert to Islam and that makes a person a Saint? Kind of a low bar, really.”
Let’s see you travel to Saudi Arabia and pray in Christ’s name in the middle of Ryadih.
Talk is cheap.
Yeah, they are sorta called ‘martyrs’.
Ouch! Nearly 1000 years later, and we are still seeing christians martyred by the muslims. Thanks for posting that fascinating history on the town.
Amidst all the arguing about sainthood and its meaning, we're missing a very important issue here and it will be interesting to see if the MSM and indeed, the jihadists themselves, pick up on this.
He's canonizing over 800 people who were slaughtered by Muslims. You know the old Islamic "convert or die" threat? Well these folks said...."we'd prefer to die; we're not converting".
Major message for the post-Christian world of the 21st century, under assault from radical Islam.
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