[what's up]

But no grace or faith for the non-elect.

No, but where there IS salvation it is by grace. God's choice to save souls (whomever they are) IS grace.

[D-fendr]

where there IS salvation it is by grace

But where there is not election there is not grace. In Calvinism, election pre-determines salvation.

You may define your terms differently; however, the doctrine remains quite different between Calvinist and non. These differences cannot be eliminated by conflating terms.

Thanks much for your reply.