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To: Chaguito; All
When tested from God’s point of view, it’s 100% election. Tested from man’s point of view, it’s 100% free choice. So, I assume election is true and free choice is true...

Yet this doesn't comport with Scripture: "No one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor. 12:3)

Who gets the credit for salvation? Jesus dying on the cross for our behalf, and the Holy Spirit enlightening/illuminating us via the gift of faith...or man's marvelous "choosing" ability???

Sorry, the Bible doesn't "major" very much in elaborating upon man's great "choices"...hence, "decision theology" doesn't represent the Bible.

In fact, may I suggest you study up on the spiritual bondage that pre-empts men from making great choices? (Ephesians 2:1-3; John 8:34; most of Romans 6...where Paul was writing to a city that was about 1/3rd slaves...they knew the spiritual slavery parallels Paul was talking about).

Even with the Israelites' wandering in the wilderness, they couldn't be "on the loose" until God set them free via His miracles and His agent, Moses.

88 posted on 02/07/2013 5:55:26 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Like several others, you aren’t following my argument. I agree with you 100% that God elects. My argument is that no one knows whom he has elected, that is, He is the only one who knows, and He isn’t sharing that with me or you. So, I can only assume that he has chosen everybody. Those that confess Jesus as Lord demonstrate the evidence of that chosenness. Even with that, I still can’t be certain that the evidence will fade away.

Therefore, I assume that all are chosen and share the same message of faith with all, whether or not they show the evidence.

I don’t think you would presume to guess whom God has chosen, would you?


113 posted on 02/07/2013 8:17:38 PM PST by Chaguito
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