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To: Chaguito
After study quantum mechanics, I came to the conclusion that what was wrong was a form of “indeterminacy,” an inability to process the true state of things, because we see in three dimensions. An electron is a particle if tested for particularity and a wave if tested for waveness.

When tested from God’s point of view, it’s 100% election. Tested from man’s point of view, it’s 100% free choice.

So, I assume election is true and free choice is true, and the contradiction bothers me no more than an apparently self-contradictory theory which attempts to model reality.

I think you're on to something!

And, BTW, God isn’t telling me whom is predestined. To try to guess is hubris.

Much agreed.

53 posted on 02/07/2013 2:01:08 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("If you are not firm in faith, you will not be firm at all" - Isaiah 7:9)
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To: Alex Murphy

What I suggested in my post also helps with problems of the Trinity, for example. The “Father”, the “Son”, and the “Spirit” are the results of different “experiments.”

The question might be, “the electron, is it a wave, a particle, or energy?” and the answer is “yes.” But which? None and all, it is an electron.

Is God the Father, the Son, or the Spirit? The answer is “yes.” But which? None and all, He is simply God. You aren’t going to arrive at the definitive three dimensional model, because it can’t be done. God is not trapped as we are.

So when the Jehovah’s Witness asks, “Where was God while Jesus was dead on the cross?” the answer is, “where He always was.”


61 posted on 02/07/2013 2:26:47 PM PST by Chaguito
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