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To: D-fendr
I don’t see where this addresses the problem in Calvinism of salvation by election instead of by grace through faith.

Ephesians 2:8-10 (and note that Ephesians starts by discussing predestination, so this is in that context). Faith and grace are the gifts of God to the (elected) believer.

4 posted on 02/07/2013 12:18:36 PM PST by alancarp (Obama will grab your guns and ship them to Mexican drug mobs.)
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To: alancarp
Faith and grace are the gifts of God to the (elected) believer.

I think you're agreeing with my point. Faith and grace are conditional - determined by election. Therefore salvation is by election. No election, no grace, no faith.

However you may feel about its correctness, this is at odds with salvation by grace through faith.

5 posted on 02/07/2013 12:21:58 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: alancarp
Faith and grace are the gifts of God to the (elected) believer.

Grace is definitely a gift from God. But faith is our response to who God is. Faith requires action on our part. It goes beyond simply believing. It is the substance of acting upon that belief.

115 posted on 02/07/2013 8:25:23 PM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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