[SeaHawkFan]

Aside from the “P”’, there’s not a dimes worth of difference between the ‘misperception’ and the ‘facts’ as he explains them.

I once went to a family Bible camp where Edwin Palmer spoke on “The Five Points of Calvinism”.

His entire presentation on Perseverance of the Saints was, “Once saved, always saved; no exception.”

[Alex Murphy]

Aside from the “P”’, there’s not a dimes worth of difference between the ‘misperception’ and the ‘facts’ as he explains them. I once went to a family Bible camp where Edwin Palmer spoke on “The Five Points of Calvinism”. His entire presentation on Perseverance of the Saints was, “Once saved, always saved; no exception.”

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[HarleyD]

I once went to a family Bible camp where Edwin Palmer spoke on “The Five Points of Calvinism”. His entire presentation on Perseverance of the Saints was, “Once saved, always saved; no exception.”

I'm sorry but I have no idea of who Edwin Palmer is nor have I read this through this article and posts. However, if Edwin Palmer made such a claim, then he has absolutely no understanding on the differences of "Once Saved, Always Saved" and "Perseverance of the Saints".

In the first case, OSAS is a bastardized view of POTS to try to reconcile the "free will" choice of coming to Christ with the idea that one cannot lose their salvation. The problem Arminians "free willers" have is, if you can come to Christ on your own free will, then can't you at some point in time reject that salvation? True Arminians will say, "Of course you can." and it is in their creed. And, they are right-in their own twisted sense of the gospel. Other Protestants who have back slid away from true Protestantism, are aghast at the thought of losing one's salvation and have concocted the doctrine of OSAS. Their interpretation is that once you make a choice, God will keep you even from your bad choices.

To be perfectly honest, this was always the most goofiest doctrine to me. While I've never doubted my salvation, I could never understand the logic of OSAS. If you could make a choice, why can't you choose at any time to leave the flock?

POTS states that while, yes, you could technically lose your salvation one never will. You were give to the Son by the Father to care for. Our Lord Jesus is the Good Shepherd who watches and cares for us. Although we might drift away for a time according to His good pleasure and hidden will, He won't let anything happen to us. He will see us home. And that is reassuringly good news.

Now if Edwin Palmer cannot understand the difference between those two points of views, one has to wonder why? It's not that complicated unless he simply never could understand the gospel of grace.

[Hoodat]

His entire presentation on Perseverance of the Saints was, “Once saved, always saved; no exception.”

I take it that he never read Revelation 3:1-5.