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To: what's up

I think you are agreeing then?


107 posted on 02/07/2013 7:05:28 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
The outpouring of grace working through faith is operational in the process.

Without faith there is no salvation. And there is no faith but by grace (God at work in His election plan).

108 posted on 02/07/2013 7:13:33 PM PST by what's up
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To: D-fendr
Hence, salvation by election.

A Calvinist will say this is true.

But he/she will ALSO say that election will always operate through faith. And that faith is always given by grace.

Grace through faith and this is all initiated by God's election. I doubt your position and Calvin's are much different.

109 posted on 02/07/2013 7:33:40 PM PST by what's up
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