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To: SpirituTuo

My initial response was to post 32 and it was because nowhere in it was “ex cathedra” implied.

Pope Paul II was not speaking “ex cathedra” when he said the Jews covenant with God was still valid. The Holy Ghost prevented him from stating this “ex cathedra”.

You at best have a vivid imagination, at worse ?????


47 posted on 02/08/2013 3:18:22 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

If you re-read post 32, you will see 3 key words: Infallibility, faith, and morals.

You will also see how those three words are clearly and specifically linked to the term ex cathedra.

From the Catholic Encylopedia:

The phrase ex cathedra ... its present meaning was formally determined by the Vatican Council, Sess. IV, Const. de Ecclesiâ Christi, c. iv: “We teach and define that it is a dogma Divinely revealed that the Roman pontiff when he speaks ex cathedra, that is when in discharge of the office of pastor and doctor of all Christians, by virtue of his supreme Apostolic authority, he defines a doctrine regarding faith or morals to be held by the universal Church, by the Divine assistance promised to him in Blessed Peter, is possessed of that infallibility with which the Divine Redeemer willed that his Church should be endowed in defining doctrine regarding faith or morals, and that therefore such definitions of the Roman pontiff are of themselves and not from the consent of the Church irreformable.” (See INFALLIBILITY; POPE.) http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05677a.htm


49 posted on 02/08/2013 3:41:43 PM PST by SpirituTuo
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