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To: MeOnTheBeach; laweeks; Viennacon; ArrogantBustard; Buckeye McFrog
You have a definition problem there, because removal of an ectopic pregnancy is not abortion and never has been regarded as such, whether defined by moral law, church law, medical ethics or criminal statute.

A little research on that would show that legitimate therapeutic procedures not directed against the baby, are not abortion in any sense, even if the situation is desperate and death of the baby is foreseeable.

It's always a matter of aggressively attacking the disease condition, not the baby. In ethics, this is called "Double Effect". Click that, it's THE starting place for ethical clarity on this issue.

Lest this seem too complicated, let me give examples of procedures of this kind:

I have done considerable reading and questioning about this over a period of 30+ years, and I have never heard of a case where an actual attack on the child, i.e. an abortion, was necessary to save a mother's life.

An experienced OB/Gyn (mine) once told me that "abortion to save the mother's life" is never necessary and, when done, would indicate that the doctor was either unwilling or unable to practice modern obstetrics.

Interestingly, the country with the lowest maternal mortality rate in the world (Ireland) is also one of the few countries where the laws against criminal abortion are enforced.

So before you go polling people about this, it would be best to start by defining your terms correctly.

I would be as interested in the results as you are.

34 posted on 01/28/2013 10:32:47 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Live and Let Live.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
You have a definition problem there, because removal of an ectopic pregnancy is not abortion and never has been regarded as such, whether defined by moral law, church law, medical ethics or criminal statute.

Ok that makes sense. When I went to the hospital to see my friend all that was stated was "aborting" the pregnancy. She was given the drugs that I guess are used in Chemo that would end the pregnancy. So the terminology sounded the same.

So if abortion were completely 100% illegal it wouldn't touch this procedure, correct?
35 posted on 01/28/2013 10:43:59 AM PST by MeOnTheBeach
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Nicely stated


36 posted on 01/28/2013 10:44:20 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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