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To: terycarl; Elsie; daniel1212
I am terycarl and I am a Catholic and I believe that I am saved....I believe that salvation is a gift and it comes with certain required conditions....don't reject it, do your best to conform to acceptable behavior

Ah yes, the Catholic way to thinking ("believing" instead of KNOWING) they are saved and then ending up in the pit of fire, telling satan Hay what am I doing here, I did the Catholic "required conditions" and I "conformed to acceptable behaviour?"

Then I would imagine satan would lead the great multitudes that believe that---those that you and other Catholics misled into your "Church" instead of leading them to Jesus and salvation.

Poor mislead souls who Catholicism caused to hear the words of Jesus: "Depart from Me, I never knew you."

Swelled up with pride are you?

Your haughty posts defying God and scripture constantly appearing on this thread are a disgrace to Christianity.

Conforming to acceptable Catholic behavior (filthy rags to god) won't help get you salvation. The acceptable behaviour is simply believing on Jesus Christ and repenting and asking Him to live within you and you in Him as a born again Christian with a personal relationship with God through Jesus. Don't continue to reject it.

But you appear to constantly reject it with your prideful posts about the only way to God is through the Catholic church.

the true church [Catholic] which Christ Himself founded---(no but he did start the actual TRUE chruch, his Body which is made up of ALL born again saved Christians)

in your minority opinion (Wide is the gate to destruction, narrow is the gate to salvation...few will enter there)

do you seriously think that the Bereans checked existing scripture (do you seriously continue to deny that God's word is true?)

there was really no need to learn to read because there was nothing to read.

people couldn't read, and if they could, there was virtually nothing to read

They were illiterate because there was nothing to read. It's as simple as that....there were no books, in possession of the general population

Not according to God:

Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God." (Matthew 22:29)

And the common people heard him gladly.” (Mk. 12:37)

"Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of Me." (John 5:39)

"And He said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning Me. {45} Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, " (Luke 24:44-45)

"And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus." (2 Timothy 3:15)

These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.” (Act 17:11)

"As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby." (1 Peter 2:2)

"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. " (2 Timothy
2:15
)

It has been established that historically Rome did not overall encourage Bible literacy among the laity, and can be said to have even discouraged it. Read more: http://www.peacebyjesus.net/ancients_on_scripture.html#Supplementary#ixzz2JeyarISN

Did you see God's word saying that Jesus opened up their understanding? *Poof* their goes your claim to illiteracy.

Constantly denying the power of God and going against scripture (poking a stick in God's eye) when you can pray for God to "open up your understanding" does a disservice to God and man.

an annulment does not dissolve a marriage, it declares that there was not a valid marriage in the first place... Therefore; logically; if there was some diddling between the 'marriage' and the 'annulment'; there'd be some FORNICATION to be forgiven

...in the Catholic Church..NO

Gotcha, fornication is OK for Catholics.

"I'm still right" (your statements and opinions have been proven wrong dozens of times on this thread alone, by truth backed up with scripture. Pride?)

Terycarl

Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.--Proverbs 16:18 (another of those pesky scriptures for ya)

Daniel thanks for the scripture references that I found on your website.

I noticed up thread quite a bit you linked them to terycarl but it is obvious she discounts them as apparently not approved by her belief system as her arguments constantly refute them.

terycarl: I do not believe that you can live whatever lifestyle that you choose and not give up your gift of salvation.
Like some of your loved and venerated Popes?

Like the one that cut off the fingers of a dug up body from the grave?

Like the one that murdered people, had an affair with a married woman and was shot to death while having sex with her by her husband?

Like the one that rejoiced at the screams of his foes being tortured?

Like the ones that had sex with nuns?

And the ones that had their children killed in the womb by abortion?

The one that had his son, a product of his fornication, become pope?

Did they go to hell?

Losing their salvation? You can't lose something you don't have.

How many Popes do you figure are in Hell?

290 posted on 02/01/2013 8:38:39 AM PST by Syncro ("So?" - Andrew Breitbart The King of All Media (RIP Feb 1, 1969 – Mar 1, 2012)
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To: Syncro
Ah yes, the Catholic way to thinking ("believing" instead of KNOWING) they are saved and then ending up in the pit of fire,

1Jn. 5:13 provides for knowing you now have eternal life, based on "things which accompany salvation," (Heb. 6:9) and which involves self judgment, while many texts warn against casting away the faith in "departing from the living God," and drawing back to perdition, (Heb. 3:12;10:35,38; Gal. 5:1-4) and thus God works to chasten us to repentance. (1Cor. 11:32)

But what Rome warns about is presuming you are "assuredly in the number of the predestinate; as if it were true, that he that is justified, either cannot sin any more, or, if he do sin, that he ought to promise himself an assured repentance; for except by special revelation, it cannot be known whom God hath chosen unto Himself. [Trent, The Sixth Session, CHAPTER XII, http://history.hanover.edu/early/trent/ct06.html]

Thus by subjective "special revelation" they may know they are part of the elect. But examining the veracity of Rome's teaching by Scripture is disallowed as "private interpretation" if it is seen as contradicting her. Yet if you are among those who pray "our mother who art in Heaven" (as they effectively make the Lord teaching) then Rome's parameters yet allow you to have great liberty to interpret Scripture to support Rome.

293 posted on 02/01/2013 10:09:35 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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