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To: xzins; HarleyD
I think we should start a thread where everyone can post the following:

I decided to follow Jesus because....

I am sure that nearly all the non-Reformed posters would start their response with the word "I" and all the Reformed posters would start their response with the word "God".

677 posted on 02/01/2013 8:46:51 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: P-Marlowe; HarleyD

For what it’s worth, PM, Arminius NEVER left Calvinism. He remained a professor of it at Leiden(?) his entire life. He always claimed to adhere to it. Essentially, he believed his appeal to the foreknowledge of God was in such a way that it did not go out of the bounds of God’s sovereignty.

The weakness of the foreknowledge position is that it still has you choosing Him even if it was before the creation. Therefore, you’re saved not by grace but by your good sense to figure it out and choose correctly.

The weakness of the foreordination position is that it is hard to conceive how God is not the author of sin when He foreordains all, but the foreordained creature retains personal responsibility for their foreordained behavior. It’s hard to see how someone is morally responsible for preprogrammed behavior.


679 posted on 02/01/2013 9:02:51 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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