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To: metmom; CynicalBear; HarleyD; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; marron; stfassisi; xzins
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Let me ask you something metmom. Would it upset you if God chose you from the foundation of the Earth based solely upon his counsel and that your free will had nothing whatsoever to do with it; in fact, because he loved YOU before you were ever formed he chose you and changed your will to His in order that you would then willingly come to Christ?

Would it upset you if you realized that YOU did not make the decision to follow Christ, but that God alone made that decision and that he changed your heart and your will to conform to his before you ever asked?

If you answer yes to either of those questions, then I would have to put you in the category of those who are unwilling to surrender their free will.

The fact of the matter is that until God changes our hearts our "free will" we will always choose the path that leads away from God because our unregenerate hearts cannot turn to God.

628 posted on 02/01/2013 7:53:20 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: P-Marlowe

There is NO SUCH THING AS FREE WILL AS HAS BEEN DEFINED ON THIS THREAD.

It is pointless to use it as it CANNOT exist.

Don’t put me in a category of what you think I believe and then demand that I defend it. I’ve dealt enough with that from certain Catholic FReepers and have put them on my *Do not respond* list, and I will do the same with anyone who tries to pigeon hole me and demand that I defend something I never claimed to believe but that I am accused of believing.


631 posted on 02/01/2013 8:02:17 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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