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Posted on 01/16/2013 8:57:49 AM PST by marshmallow
General audience, Benedict XVI defines the Incarnation as "something unimaginable, the face of God can be seen, the process that began with Abraham is fulfilled." The Week of Prayer for Christian Unity, he asks "for the great gift" to "proclaim together that Jesus is the Savior of the world."
Vatican City (AsiaNews) - "The desire to know the face of God is in every man, even the atheists," but this desire is only realized by following Christ, in whom, in the Incarnation, "something unimaginable took place, the journey that began with Abraham is fulfilled. He is the Son, the fullness of all Revelation; the mediator who shows us the face of God. "
And "to proclaim together that Jesus is the Saviour of the world" Benedict XVI asked for incessant prayers for "the great gift" of Christian unity in the forthcoming week, which begins on the 18th of this month.
Previously, in his catechesis, he again reflected on the meaning of Christmas, in a commentary on John's Gospel in which the apostle Philip asks Jesus to show them the Father. The answer of Jesus, "introduces us to the heart of the Church's Christological faith; For the Lord says: "Whoever has seen me has seen the Father" (Jn 14:9).This expression summarizes the novelty of the New Testament, the novelty that appeared in the cave of Bethlehem: God can be seen, he showed his face is visible in Jesus Christ".
The theme of "seeking the face of God" is present throughout the Old Testament, so much so that the Hebrew term "face", occurs no less than 400 times, 100 of which refer to God." The of Jewish religion which the religion forbids all images, "for God can not be depicted," and "can not be reduced to an object," tells us that "God...
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As do I. Thus the question. What does the scripture say about that? You claim to be the Chaplin and trained in seminary. Surely you would know the answer. After all, isn’t scripture the definitive authority?
Well then I suppose we could also conclude that you don’t believe either one of the men who professed Jesus as savior was saved. Would that be correct?
You appear to lean toward immersion.
Great. Finally, an answer.
And one of your teaching points would be Romans 14. Fine, you would teach your kids that you lean toward immersion, but you wouldn’t insist on it.
Nope, what we’d conclude is that I asked a question that you wouldn’t answer after being given multiple opportunities to do so.
It’s like a getting Obama to answer questions.
Unbelievable! Another injection from conjecture. Is that how your entire belief system is built?
I’m not making a doctrine on something I have an opinion about.
I responded to metmom’s post 1059 in which she seemed to lean toward immersion, and then she tempered that with the advice of Paul in Rom 14.
Maybe you missed it.
There’s a world of difference between doctrine and opinion.
I am not going to legalistically demand that others conform to my opinions by stating them as doctrine, and then judging them on that.
Anyone who has received Jesus Christ as Savior by faith is saved. Period. End of story.
It really doesn’t matter how messed up their doctrine is because their salvation is by what they do with Christ, not if they adhere to all the *correct* teachings about Him.
Their thinking will come around to conformity with Scripture as they grow in Christ. I’ve been astounded at the misunderstandings some people have about God and the Bible when they first get saved. God’ll take care of that as HE sees fit.
But since, no finite, mortal, human mind is capable of understanding the infinite mind of God, not human being is going to be error free. So there’s no point in attaching my self to any other error prone human doctrine or creed, or catechism.
Seeing that your name is met”mom”, I assume that you have kids. Could be young kids, could be old...I don’t know.
But, I also assume that you train them in our Christian faith as well.
I assume you feel a responsibility toward their being brought up to understand the bible and Christianity.
You have to teach them something when they ask “What is Baptism?”, don’t you?
Salvation requires our acceptance of that grace, trust in Christ, and ongoing growth in holiness as long as we live.
doctrine is not legalistic. Like “religion” it is a good bible word.
2 Timothy 4:2 KJV Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove , rebuke , exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
As long as someone's not trying to be too picky with it, I would agree with it.
If someone were being picky I'd have to talk about the Lord's faithfulness toward us.
So then you would agree with the church that put that statement out that man is partially responsible for his salvation because he has a choice to accept or reject that grace?
Now that is a comment that shows how pagan one can be. Your posts show no ability to understand the things of God. It has led to being the accuser, the questioner, the busybody. And most know where the roots of that comes from.
He interpreted the verse to suit his theology (whatever that is).
Whatever that is? It's been proven enough in your posts that the Word of God is foreign to you; yet, you question CB's posts? Go sit in the corner and put on the idiot hat.
Soon you will be a footstool.
Thank you for sharing your testimony!
Well.... um.... you see.. ahhh.... it's like this.....
Tell me how being a self-created house church guards against error.
My older sister – now in heaven – was always the ring leader.
It so happened that an old retired Baptist preacher heard about the bakery shop kids and came by to meet us. He was moved by what he saw and he used his life’s savings to build a tiny little church up the street.
Naturally all the kids got the rest of their families to join them in meeting in the new church – and before you knew it we were all baptized Southern Baptist. The church grew and split and had missionary churches of it own.
If it had been someone from another Christian “label” who found the bakery shop kids, built the church and baptized us, I’d probably be wearing a different label today. LOLOL!
As it is my "letter" has always been in a Baptist church, though that point is meaningless to me because at the root, I will always be that bakery shop kid – a Christian, plain and simple.
RF is a room in FR. Now wouldn't you agree you have a major problem staying on track? I've noted that a few times.
Exactly why are you afraid of these things.
Projecting - and I can see why when reading your posts. Time is short and no nothings seeing others with ASSURANCE leads to fear.
Wiki is your source, God's Word is ours. And that is your *CHOICE* vs. our *CHOICE*.
God's Word says "Fear Not". We 'hear and obey' His Word, do you? You can't have what we have if you don't do what we do. NO ONE is going to do it for you. Is that why you brought up Romney/election - is it 'the gov't's help' you are looking for and/or did it add to your fear factor?
Cool testimony backatcha
Thanks for sharing that.
I, too, am the product of a Baptist upbring, although I always rejected it when young. I joined the Army out of high school in 1970, and in 1972 found myself in Germany, a young, self-styled intellectual agnostic. I was also a moral reprobate and my life spiraled into the pits of hell. I was miserable beyond misery and despicable beyond loving. There was no farther down I could go morally this side of most laws.
It was in the middle of the night in the fall that a knock sounded on my door while I was sleeping, and rising and opening it, I discovered no one there. At the end of the barracks hallway, it would have been hard for someone to do that accidentally, so I stuck my head out and looked. No one there.
I returned to bed, started to sleep and “knock, knock, knock”. I was up like a flash and had the door opened. No one there. No doors shutting. I even stuck my head into the community latrine next door to my own, and no one there. (I was thinking someone was messing with me.)
I laid down again, and again I heard a knock. I was up, had the door open and nobody was there.
I returned to the bed, and a little old verse taught in Sunday School, years and years before, came to me. You already know it: “Behold I stand at the door and knock.”
Messing with me or not, the knocker had caused me to think of that verse. I remember thinking “I’ve tried everything else.” I knelt by my bed, repented, and swore allegiance to Jesus. I’ve been his ever since.
The next day a ministry working on behalf of the post chapel just happened to confront me on the street. They were running a little coffee house on post and asked me to come over. It was there that I formally accepted Christ, and it was there I was trained....by a Southern Baptist Chaplain ministering in a “general protestant” chapel.
So, I actually “grew up” as a “general protestant” spiritually, and I enjoyed that openness and give and take that took place among us. We had everything from CoG Cleveland to ECUSA. So, doctrinally, I’m probably a “Baptist”, but in practice I’m more on the “live and let live” side.
I was called to ministry by the time I finished that first tour, so I became reserve military, took a bachelor’s degree, and then an MDiv (with an additional master of family education/marital therapy later on at a 3rd institution). But, I knew that God had used chaplains in the military, so that was my focus. I re-entered active duty as a chaplain in the army after my MDiv, full ordination, and time of gaining church experience. While a chaplain, I worked with just about every conceivable denomination, group that called themselves “not a denomination”, and aggregate of prayers/teachers/preachers that the nation can put forth, since the military is a reflection of the nation.
What have I learned?
That it was grace. It was all grace. (And that grace probably in God’s mystery responding to the prayers of parents and loved ones.) Certainly Not by works of righteousness, because I didn’t have a single one to my credit.
These are the Methodist articles of religion if you want to know how our system really works, CB. By the grace of God, I knew what you were up to from the beginning. I really don’t know why I knew, because it’s my wife with the powerful gift of discernment. No “gotcha” for you this time.
Article V - Of the Sufficiency of the Holy Scriptures for Salvation
The Holy Scripture containeth all things necessary to salvation; so that whatsoever is not read therein, nor may be proved thereby, is not to be required of any man that it should be believed as an article of faith, or be thought requisite or necessary to salvation. In the name of the Holy Scripture we do understand those canonical books of the Old and New Testaments of whose authority was never any doubt in the church. The names of the canonical books are:
Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua, Judges, Ruth, The First Book of Samuel, The Second Book of Samuel, The First Book of Kings, The Second Book of Kings, The First Book of Chronicles, The Second Book of Chronicles, The Book of Ezra, The Book of Nehemiah, The Book of Esther, The Book of Job, The Psalms, The Proverbs, Ecclesiastes or the Preacher, Cantica or Songs of Solomon, Four Prophets the Greater, Twelve Prophets the Less.
All the books of the New Testament, as they are commonly received, we do receive and account canonical.
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