Posted on 01/06/2013 3:56:49 PM PST by NYer
Or Baptists with John the Baptist being the first member, if that's more like what Catholics want to hear.
I, as you know, was referring to a screw up against me...and as far as I'm concerned, it goes unnoticed......unlike small "c's"
I have made a statement in this court.....if you wish to refute my statement, you do the research...HINT...it is VERY easy to find......very easy!
We present the truth....not some man made "church of what's happening now" denomination....then we teach them the truth about Christianity verified by over 2,000 years of history.....then, if they decide that we are right (we are) they willingly join our COMPLETE Christian religion.....simple as that!!!
The Pope has been vicar of Christ for over 2,000 years....I don't think old Tom has quite reached that milestone
Only half-way...
NO ONE SAID MORE GUILTY....just more of them are AS guilty.
I am not saying anything.
Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
1 John 3:21-24
Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us.
NOW we’re getting somewhere!
While it is obvious that we do not see eye-to-eye in many repects; your dogged determination to state what you DO believe is to be commended.
I do?
I'm sorry; but when a statement is made that can be taken more than one way; I'll probably choose the one that WASN'T intended by the writer.
So; who's at fault?
The Reader or the Writer in failing to get clear communication established?
God doesn't tolerate it from Catholics either....however, the people have no way of knowing the condition of the priests soul. God, therefore, administers the sacrament to the recipient who is worthy to recieve it, and deals with the priest on His own time......how else could it possibly work????
There you go; you've missed MY poinbt!
How do you get them in the doors to HEAR the truth?
You've confused the OFFICE with the MAN.
I guess I should answer this again, this time responding to how it was writtenThe Catholic clergy are far more guilty because they know better.and protestant clergy, teachers, scout leaders think it's O.K.??????
No, protestant clergy, teachers and scout leaders do NOT think it is OK that the Catholic clergy are guilty of molesting children and when caught being able to continue the molesting.
No, it's the "Church" that is at fault here. Protestant clergy, teachers, scout leaders are united in knowing that.
aanother good catch!!! two in the last few posts!!
obviously, what I meant to say (and didn't) is that the other groups are guilty of far more child molestation accusations (clear that up too.....many are 30 years old and somewhat dubious)
If you have data, you need to provide it so someone can refute it. You made the initial statement, it is your responsibility to support it or it can be rightfully disregarded (IOW blown off) by anyone on the forum.
Nobody is going to chase around refuting someone's say so because there is nothing of substance to refute, just opinion.
It's absolutely hysterical that someone spouts an opinion and expects people to accept it as if it's written in stone.
Guess again.
another honest question please:
where on Earth did you read those words and the whole of revelation?
if you read them in the Bible, how did you get a copy of that if it was written 2,000 years ago?
if someone wrote down a "book", REVELATION, and wrote it on papyrus, how did you ever get a copy of it????? Papyrus doesn't last for 2,000 years (normally). How much is your papyrus version of revelation worth????
chances are that you have a printed copy of the Bible and that it is the KJV.....every book, every word, every text, every everything in that book was saved and preserved for you by the Catholic Church...except for the word "alone"
Absolutely someone did say MORE guilty.
I will direct your attention to post #2349
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2975555/posts?page=2349#2349 of this thread.
It says, and I copy and paste.... CALM DOWN!!!!!..please try not to be so harsh on the Catholic clergy until you check out the stats on Protestant clergy, teachers, scout leaders etc...I don't excuse any of them for a moment, but get it straight....all those other groups are FAR more guilty of child molestation than are Catholic clergy.....
Yes, someone did say *more guilty* not *as guilty*.
That's three times for the lack of edit function.
Perhaps you could address the poster of the comment and have it out with him or her.
You know, it is so strange to me how some just cannot seem to grasp this difference and they will continue to insist that what they believe IS the same thing that Scripture says. The simple truth is that, if we are saved by grace apart from our works, then that same grace keeps us saved apart from works. What WE do, our works, our good deeds, our "corporal" works of mercy - whatever term you want to use - do NOT in any way factor into the cause of our salvation. Just like God says, we are saved NOT by righteous deeds that we do but according to HIS mercy and grace by Christ Jesus. If only the blinders would come off and people could see the truth about God's grace, they would be saved and a huge burden could be lifted off their shoulders to live in newness of life confident that the good work God began in them would be completed at the day of their redemption.
He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things? (Romans 8:32)
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