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To: justice14

The following 2 verses says He does predestine individuals. Groups aren’t called and justified, individuals are. And, it is definitely individuals who are adopted.

Romans 8:30 And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.

Ephesians 1:5 he predestined us to be adopted as his sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will—


107 posted on 01/09/2013 7:07:41 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

Romans 8:30 And THOSE he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.

Ephesians 1:5 he predestined US to be adopted as his sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will—

THOSE and US are both general terms. If speaking individually, it would “each of us”. Those is used to describe a group. Those chairs, those football players. Not those football player.


108 posted on 01/09/2013 7:16:13 AM PST by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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